How do you wear your hamata?

[arklore70]

Hi All,
here is a question.

I have seen a variation in how the Hamata with Doubler is worn.

1. Hamata Hooks secured/riveted to shirt with hooks on buttons riveted to Doubler flaps on top/outside.

2.Hamata Hooks secured/riveted to shirt with hooks on buttons riveted to Doubler flaps underneath the doubler flaps.

3.Hamata Hooks not secured to shirt with hooks on buttons riveted to Doubler flaps in one of the two previous mentioned methods.

4. No Hamata Hooks, with what appears to be a leather thong routed through the mail and tied off on the Hamata Doubler flaps to the riveted buttons.

5. No Hamata hooks and no Hamata buttons, secured with a leather cord through the mail shirt and through the doubler flaps.

6 Back of Hamata Doubler securted with butted or riveted rings in the back.

7. back of Hamata Doubler secured with 3-5 leather and brass buckles to allow for ease of cleaning, etc..

So here is my question. Are all the above mentiioned methods acurate? All seem with in the realm of the possible.

Are there any other methods out there that I have not mentioned?

Thanks all.
V/r
Mike

[Tarbicus]

You could also use a brass bar instead of hooks at the front (see Primus Paulus) for Republican:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309 ... itting.jpg
http://www.redrampant.com/roma/rep.html
http://web.mac.com/heraklia/Caesar/grap ... onary2.gif
http://www.anistor.co.hol.gr/english/en ... diers1.jpg
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/images/caesar1.jpg

BTW Mike, you seem to have submitted this thread twice.

[arklore70]

Jim,
I just noticed that myself, and I have no idea how that happened hock:

It is amazing how much you can screw up with a computer :roll:

I wonder if one method of wearing more stylistic of a certain period, or just a matter of personnel preference and practicality?

V/r
Mike

[Chuck Russell]

in a box at Primus Paulus' house i havent gotten to pick mine up yet

[Tarbicus]

It is amazing how much you can screw up with a computer :roll:

I do every day, but I don't tell anyone....

I wonder if one method of wearing more stylistic of a certain period, or just a matter of personnel preference and practicality?

I know if I was doing Republican (Caesar and earlier) I'd go for the brass bar. Who knows, they may have even been leather in some cases (slim idea)?

[arklore70]

I would think that a leather cross strap would definitely be in the realm of possibility. It would be easy enough to make, easy to replace, and more than likely just as effective.

Course, leather rots, so we may never find an example of one, so this goes into the speculation, but I bet any of us could make one that looks a heck of a lot like the brass bar we assume we are looking at in sculpture.

V/r
Mike

[M. Demetrius]

Tarbicus: You could also use a brass bar instead of hooks at the front

I see the small illustrations, and the picture of Paulus, but I don't see how the brass bar connects to the doubler. Is it a notch in the bar that hooks around a large-headed rivet?

[Primvs Pavlvs]

Tarbicus: You could also use a brass bar instead of hooks at the front

I see the small illustrations, and the picture of Paulus, but I don't see how the brass bar connects to the doubler. Is it a notch in the bar that hooks around a large-headed rivet?

Demetrius,

Mine have notches cut into them that slip over the shank of the button. This was the most logical way that I assumed the originals were. I modeled mine from a carving that did not show any detail.

[M. Demetrius]

Is the bar held captive against the body of the hamata? It doesn't show clearly in the photo. That looks like a more logical way than the "dragon head hooks" that I'm using, particularly since I'm probably going back to an earlier time slot, more Julius/Augustus Caesar than Claudian.

[Primvs Pavlvs]

David,

I will do my best to remember to take some pics for you. But yes the bar is held against the body.

[M. Demetrius]

Thanks, Paul. I'll just bet other folks would like to see how that rig works, too.

[Marcus Mummius]

I'm using the nr.3 and nr.7 configuration currently. Also the lower pair of buttons are secured with a leather tong to the underying mail. Works great.

Vale