Armed Batavians article

[Caballo]

Hi,

Does anyone have or can get hold of this article?

Nicolay , J, 2007 : "Armed Batavians: Use and Significance of weaponry and horse gear from non-military contexts in the Rhine delta (50 BC- 450 AD) "(Amsterdam Archaeological Studies)?

From the reference I have seen, it may even have lorica segmentata remains linked to Batavians....which would be very, very interesting!

Really appreciate your help.

Many thanks!

Caballo

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Coool! Know any Extra extra Large Batavians looking for a Corbridge A?
D D

[Caballo]

You may well see some at the Lunt on Sunday!

Cheers

Caballo

[Peroni]

The article by Nico Roymans and Ton Derks "Returning auxiliary veterans" contains a very interesting section which addresses Batavian military finds in rural contexts. They mention a find from Tiel - Passewaaij at the site of a rural 'byre-house' (a typical Germanic thatched wood and wattle homestead) in which a lot of items of horse equipment were found alongside a fragmentary gladius fitting, part of a helmet crest(?) an apron strap stud and a lorica segmentata fitting. (Although both of the latter fittings could have belonged to the horse harness).

Here's the fitting..


This could suggest either..

A). The Batavian soldier was in fact an ex- legionary that returned home.

B) The Batavian soldier used a seg fitting to fix his horse harness.

C) The Batavian soldier was an auxiliary that wore segmentata.

D) There were two soldiers from the same family, one, the father from an auxiliary cavalry regiment that was granted citizenship, and his son (who joined the citizen legions).

I'm of the optimistic opinion that the fittings belonged to one man. However, why wasn't more than one tie loop found? I would expect to see more than one!

ps if you manage to get the Nicolay article Caballo, sling us a copy! :wink:

[Caballo]

"if you manage to get the Nicolay article Caballo, sling us a copy!"

Absolutely!

[lisa]

Caballo, are you sure it's an article? The reference I've seen doesn't have any page numbers: preliminary research says that the Amsterdam Archaeological Studies series consists of monographs. The title seems to be a direct translation of Nicolay's 2005 book Gewapende Bataven :
gebruik en betekenis van wapen- en paardentuig uit niet-militaire contexten in de Rijndelta (50 voor tot 450 na Chr.), which was incredibly difficult to get hold of and impossible to buy (I tried very, very hard). Hope the English translation isn't equally problematic. I have a partial copy of the Dutch that I can browse for references to segmentata if you like, though.

[Caballo]

Lisa wrote "I have a partial copy of the Dutch that I can browse for references to segmentata if you like, though."

That would be incredibly kind.......thanks!

Cheers

Caballo

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

You may well see some at the Lunt on Sunday!

Cheers

Caballo

Well, despite the uncertainty of work at the moment, I may try to get down there...... :roll: :?