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Interesting way of wearing sagum
#1
I took this picture two years ago in Kopenhagen, Ny Carlsberg Glyptothek.
As I remember, the inscription was lost and there was no description of finding place or date.
It seems to show a vexillarius of the mid to late 2nd Century (hair and beard).
I took the foto because of the interesting way this man is wearing his sagum. Never seen that before!
Puzzling is broad shoulder-belt. Neither sword nor shield (on back) is depicted. Perhaps this belt is used to hold the folds of the sagum?

Greets,

Decebalus
Andreas Gagelmann
Berlin, Germany
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#2
Here`s the picture:
Andreas Gagelmann
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#3
He looks vaguely like a Scot wearing the plaid....
I don't know the history of the plaid, as in where the idea originated, but could this be the forebear worn by a Celtic Legionary...?
You can see a round clasp holding the sagum just above the 'sword belt'
What does he have his right hand on...?
Cristina
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#4
A vexillum, Cristina 8)

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#5
Yeah, what does he have his right hand on, as his left hand is on a vexillum? :wink:
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#6
Avete omnes,

Perhaps he holds his shield and the helmet on the ground, a feature I've seen on a Gladiatorian gravestone.

It would be nice, if Decebalus could post a bigger photo, surely he made one with better details.

Greets Uwe
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#7
Ooops, right hand... :oops:
Well, through a wild guess, it could be a patera over an perfume burner... :?

Aitor
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#8
...or a large seated cat. No wait, this is the wrong thread. Sorry, don't kill me. Smile
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#9
looks like a gallic helmet! Or a face mask?
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#10
Here`s a close-up of the object on his right side.
Looking at the original my first thougt was that he is throwing a flower into the urn-like object and the bigger round thing between his fingers and the "urn" would be the opened lid. Perhaps he`s in the process of sacrifice??

Greets,

Decebalus/Andreas Gagelmann
Andreas Gagelmann
Berlin, Germany
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#11
It is clear for me... 8)
Look at the approx. contemporary sacrificing tribune of the Dura wall painting:
[Image: Terentius.jpg]

Aitor
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#12
Getting back to the cloak chaps, he could in fact be wearing an Exomis tunic A Greek style garment the best illustrated example of which is the scene of Aeneas being treated for a leg wound on a Pompeii wall painting. I would like to see a better picture however.
Graham.
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#13
Quote:...or a large seated cat. No wait, this is the wrong thread. Sorry, don't kill me. Smile
I thought it looked like a cat too....but didn't want to mention it.... :lol:
Cristina
The Hoplite Association
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The enemy is less likely to get wind of an advance of cavalry, if the orders for march were passed from mouth to mouth rather than announced by voice of herald, or public notice. Xenophon
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#14
Could the broad band not actualy be part of the sagum, having been rolled up at the narrow ends, draped around the body in an 8 shape and then pinned?
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