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I'm having a large amount of Samian Ware made for me and will be having my own stamp put on the pieces. I'd like some sort of Latin abbreviation on them and was thinking of something like 'Made for Lawrence'. Could anyone tell me what that would be in latin, or how it might appear on a stamp? Already checked Latin dictionary sites on the web, but they haven't helped me much!
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Lawrence
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"It is made" in latin is "fit", the 3rd person passive of facio, and the name of for who it is made should be in the dative case. For example, "It is made for Lucius", would be Lucio Fit. Abbreviations might also be used, but I do not know what they would be. You might latinize Lawrence by making it 3rd declension. The dative then becomes Lawrenci, which makes "It is made for Lawrence" as Lawrenci fit.
Another possibility is something active rather than passive. "I made this bowl for Lawrence" would be: Hanc pateram Lawrenci feci, or simply: "I made this [thing] for Lawrence": Hoc Lawrenci feci.
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Thanks Lee,
That's absolutely perfect, just what I was looking for. It's really great to have responses like this to questions.
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Not quite...
No need to fuss with Latinizing Lawrence: it's Laurentius.
A matter of accuracy... as far as I know, Samian Ware is always stamped with the name of the workshop, not that of the owner, as it was a (relatively-)mass-produced item.
That's not to say you couldn't scratch your own name on it, post-firing. There are numerous examples of such from the archaeological record. There are the so-called "speaking objects," e.g.
ego Laurenti "I belong to Lawrence"
ego scaphium Laurenti "I am Lawrence's cup"
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FIT? It's not FECIT?
You can use too EX.OF.LAUR (EX OFICCINA LAURENTINA, from the Laurentius workshop)
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I don't want to be too picky, but I thought I could be of some more help with the Latin.
fit is the passive form of the verb. Literally translated "it has been made"
fecit is the active form of facio. Literally translated "he/she/it made/created"
Both are acceptable, I think that fecit would be more usual.
btw, officina only has one 'c', and the adjectival version of Laurentius would be laurentiana, if the world is feminine.
The abbreviated version looks great!. I like EX. OF. LAUR.
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In pottery epigraphy i only have seen the form "fecit". Oficina have only one "c" ( it was a keyboard mistake").
Another option is to put only the tria nomina initials, or even the cognomen only. It was very common in italian wares.
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Thanks again, I do actually like your suggestion Michael, that would look quite good on a stamp. I'm not the producer but I'll be trading the goods at the shows etc so it would be good to have a stamp which refers to me and one that I can explain its meaning.
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A simple 'LAVRENTI' would work equally as well. especially on small items, the space being limited.
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