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3rdc AD ring Belts (pictures)
#1
ok i see that both sides of the belt pass thru the ring and then alline themselves back over the belt and are held snug by a riviet.

but how are these adjustable? surely one is not the same size with a tunic as he is with mail over it.

ive been looking at connollys greece and rome at war, Graham's roman clothing 2, simkins roman army from hadrian to.... and Imperial roman legionary 161-284

now is there something i'm missing? i looked at the original parts in the roman military equipment book first for the parts and then the others for the artist interpretations. but i just cant seem to bend my mind around a belt that is unadjustable.


any help?
Tiberius Claudius Lupus

Chuck Russell
Keyser,WV, USA
[url:em57ti3w]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/Roman/index.htm[/url]
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#2
Chuck, I guess like a modern belt you'd have more than one hole for adjustment of the strap?

If you are wearing armour, you'd have it on the furthest hole, and when in off-duty wear, pull it tighter onto the second pair of holes.
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#3
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here's mine. wish i had some thicker leather. it wasnt hard to mock up and make, so if it wears after a while i'll get some thicker leather and remake it.
Tiberius Claudius Lupus

Chuck Russell
Keyser,WV, USA
[url:em57ti3w]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/Roman/index.htm[/url]
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#4
Quote:wish i had some thicker leather. it wasnt hard to mock up and make, so if it wears after a while i'll get some thicker leather and remake it.
Would stitching the edges help?
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
A A A DESEDO DESEDO!
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#5
what i may end up doing is doing jsut that. just adding a piece of leather to the inside and stitching it to the outside.
Tiberius Claudius Lupus

Chuck Russell
Keyser,WV, USA
[url:em57ti3w]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/Roman/index.htm[/url]
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#6
I can't help but think that there is more to this belt than meets the eye.

Could it be that he belt adjusts in the back vis a vis an overlap that is either tied or secured with with a stud or decoration? That would make it possible to wear the belt over mail or with normal clothing.
Angus Finnigan
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#7
Doubtful. The adjustment can be made by holes at different positions on the belt itself. All it then needs to adjust is to pull the belt tighter and hook the 'volubilis' buttons into the next hole.

Here's Nodge Nolan's version of the Banasa fittings..
[Image: 3Cbucklestudssmall.jpg]
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#8
Couldn't you just add another rivet on the outside to make it tighter without armor( unless, of course, you made it to fit without to begin with).

Very nice looking belts, guys.

Any suggestions on a simple one for Early times?( to accompany a Monte A).
I don't suppose the Romans ever made a "cinch" type belt that didn't need a buckle.
Andy Booker

Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs

Andronikos of Athens
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#9
I know of one Republican buckle from Spain, but why not a simple button/loop fastener typical of the iron age?
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#10
When I was refering to the overlap on the back of the belt, I was referring to the back of the belt that is located above the backside of the individual wearing the belt. You could overlap two ends back there and any adjustment to that overlap would customize the fit to the person wearing the belt.
Angus Finnigan
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