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New Guy Tricks in Roman Army
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After reading Gauis Marius Aquilus's post in another thread about 'stupid new guy tricks' I thought it would be fun to hear your speculations on what sort of tricks might be pulled on a new guy in the Roman Army, be it a green officer or a new recruit.<br>
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I must be some kind of weirdo because, although I am too nice to ever participate in anything like that myself, I have always been fascinated by these nasty initiations.<br>
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I betcha the Romans were no different when it came to abusing the new guy. Whadya think?<br>
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Wendy <p></p><i></i>
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#2
Oh boy, playing tricks was one of my favs. I have 2 lists, here, cruel tricks (things we did to people we didn't like), and funny tricks (ones you do to your buddy)<br>
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<span style="text-decoration:underline">Cruel Tricks</span><br>
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- urinating in the guy's canteen (or water flask)<br>
- lining the inside of the helmet (or liner) with camo paint. In ancient times. one could use a variety of substances. When the helmet is taken off, they have a new hair colour.<br>
- gluing the sword to the scabbard.<br>
- making minute slits in the caligae lacing leathers, so when a lot of force is applied to the sandle, the leathers split, effectively "blowing a shoe".<br>
- Making a cut near the fulcrum of the marching stick, so when it is slung over the shoulder with a decent amount of weight, it will break in 2.<br>
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<span style="text-decoration:underline">Funny Tricks</span><br>
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- making a giant knot out of a soldier's linen tunic, thus producing massive amounts of wrinkles.<br>
- hiding stones or other weights in their martching satchel.<br>
- coating their bum wiping sponge with some kind of hot substance, like pepper extracts.<br>
- Hiding a piece of meat or cheese in the martching satchel of buddy, right before a 30 mile march in the hot weather.<br>
- Boiling buddy's caligae in water, the night before a march, so when he goes to put them on, they are 5 sizes too small.<br>
- remove the shoulder padding of the subarmalis and replace with 2 pieces of meat.<br>
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I'll save my actual tricks that I did to my buddy's for another thread.<br>
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Magnus/Matt<br>
Optio<br>
Legio XXX "Ulpia Victrix" </p><i></i>
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#3
I think it would be hilarious if the New Guy was told that he was supposed to wear a red tunic for all parades, and he confessed he didn't have one, so the old sweats get together and sell hime a really old one, to keep him out of trouble. The next morning, he shows up in red, but only he and the centurion are wearing red, all the rest are wearing white.<br>
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Of course, that would not happen, because everyone would probably already know that only centurions wore red (if that is the case, calm down Dan!)<br>
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We used to send new soldier's to find lazer blanks, air pressure gauges for the road wheels of the tanks, Kevlar helmet liners, Gas masking tape, and so on. The bad part is that you send them to check at another platoon. The old sweats there know the trick and say they loaned it out to the battalion supply for something, then when teh newby gets there, the Battalion supply sergeant says that a sister battalion has borrowed the item, or something....<br>
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Another fun thing was to disassemble the lieutenant's pistol, not to the basic disassembly but to each of the individual parts, springs, and pins. Then give it to them to reassemble saying I cleaned this for you sir, but you'll have to put it back together because the First Sergeant needs me. (This was very effective when he would hand it over to be cleaned, like it was a duty of his driver or something!)<br>
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If you disliked an officer, you could make sure to dismiss your class or formation when you knew he was due in, and the troops would seperate into clumps a few yards apart as they left. The officer had to salute each group, and with 400+ men, they seemed to get tired arms.<br>
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Soviet soldiers were a little rougher, they would take all the new issue equipment from the new soldier, then "trade" him their worst stuff. The tyros would have all the extra duties and also wait on the old sweats, taking acre of their equipment. The old sweats often had no hope of real promotion and were only serving their time and had no real punishments for brutality to the new troops, unless they killed or damaged one, or ran up against someone with money or connections. (rare). The NCO's and Officers were in a seperate total environment and left the "men" alone to haze and train the new soldiers in many cases, which may be more like the old Roman Army, with it's acknowledged system of immunes and buying exemptions from duties.<br>
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There are some things we used to do when I became an officer, but they probably don't fit in this list. One way to keep the attention of yourng soldiers during really boring "hip-pocket classes" was to have everyone sit on the ground, and while teaching, randomly dig in the dirt with your K-bar, and eat any grub worms or bugs that you find. They seem to find this facinating!<br>
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If you saw that film "Great Santini" You can pull the same trick with a LRRP ration or MRE soup, just put it in a clean airsick bag while bouncing along in a C-130 or CH-47. Make sure to share your "chow" with your buddy! You may get to stay behind to clean the aircraft instead of making a 20 mile roadmarch. That's a real punishment!<br>
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just a few of the things we did to keep from being bored while members of the big green machine.... of course, I never did any of this..... <p></p><i></i>
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#4
nope. just nasty rumors... even if true, I was never there at the time.... <p></p><i></i>
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#5
I once had my entire chain of command conviced I was working undercover for naval intelligence ( similar to CID )<br>
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...it all started when I was playing phone tag with my cousin who was a marine corps captain ( 0-4 ). navy captains are 0-6 rank-wise of course. so my chain of command got very excited when a captain called to speak with a junior petty officer... and when they asked, I created a ludicrous story that I was quite suprised to have them actually believe for almost a week!<br>
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anyway, <strong>I</strong> thought it was funny. they werent laughing. no sense of humor, some of these guys.<br>
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then there was one time when my ship was pulling into port, so we were doing a fresh water wash-down to wash off the worst of the salt encrustations, and I walked out onto the fantail (the back end) just ahead of the X.O.<br>
and climbed up one level to the missile deck, with him not far behind. so I grabbed the hose from the unknowing bosun's mate and splashed the water down onto the deck below, and handed the hose back, and walked away. the poor guy's just standing there as the X.O. climbs up, soaked to the bone! even the X.O. thought that one was good.<br>
we had a wonderful, great time with practical jokes. <p></p><i></i>
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