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Legionairs Names from Vespasians period
#1
I need some names for Legionairs from Vespasians period!

Could anybody helps me please?

Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!
Lucius Domitius Aurelianus
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#2
Any legion? Preferences?
Greets!

Jasper Oorthuys
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#3
Hi Jasper

Thank you for your answer!

My preference:
- The name should match to a legionair from LEG XI Vindonissa !!!!!!
- period from about AD 70 until AD 100


Thank you very much for your help!!!!
Lucius Domitius Aurelianus
Patrik Pföstl

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#4
Hi Patrik,
Well, if the legion was only there in that period, then it's pretty easy. There are 37 inscriptions with 'Legionis XI' from Windisch. A few are from XIII, but the rest belongs to your legion.

This one is interesting:
Belegstelle: AE 1996, 01124a
Provinz: Germania superior Ort: Windisch / Vindonissa
] / in dies XXX et quacumque duci/tur ibi sortem et usuras probas rec/te dari stipulatus est Sex(tus) Carisi/us Maximus quo spopondit L(ucius) Ha/terius Marius aes reddam ti/[b]i aut proc(uratori) aut heredi tuo / a[c]tum Vindonissae hib(ernis) leg(ionis) XI / VIII K(alendas) Febr(u)ar(ias) / Imp(eratore) Domitiano V(espasiani) f(ilio) Aug(usto) Ger(manico) XV M(arco) Coc/ceio Nerva II co(n)s(ulibus)
Greets!

Jasper Oorthuys
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#5
Hi Patrik,

Legio XI Claudia was posted in Vindonissa in Flavian times. These are some names from inscriptions found in Vindonissa from that legion:

Caius Novellius Primus, veteranus
Marcus Apronius Marcus Fulvius Secundus, miles
Marcus (?) Iulius Maximus, miles
Quintus Lucilius Pudens, miles
Marcus Magius Maccaus, miles
Lucius Titennius Victorinus, miles
Caius Valerius Campanus, miles
Lucius Vecnatius Maximus, miles
Caius Vegelo Rufus, miles
Caius Viselius Verecundus, veteranus
Lucius Flavius Burrus, miles
Marcus Luxsonius Festus, miles
Gaius Ennius Titus, miles
Caius Licinius Cresce(n)s, miles

Many of them give their full name: praenomen - nomen gentilicium - patronymicon - tribus - cognomen and even city of birth.

Most are from Northern Italy (like Verona, Bologna, Cremona, Piazenza, Imola, Este…) one from Spain (Lugo-Lucus Augusti) and two from France (Vienne – Vienna and Clermont-Ferrand - Augustonemeto),

So you have a lot of choise!

these are the references

AE 1900, 115
Marti / C(aius) Novellius / Primus / veteran(us) leg(ionis) XI / C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) / v(otum) s(olvit) l(ibens) l(aetus) m(erito)

CIL XIII, 5207
M(arcus) Apronius / M(arcus) Fulvius Secu/ndus Luco Aug(usti) / miles leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) / |(centuria) Veli Fusci anno(rum) / XXXVII stipendio/ru(m) [X]VII h(ic) s(itus) e(st) / testamento fieri / iussit heredes / faciundu(m) curar/unt

CIL XIII, 5209
[M(arco?) I]ulio M(arci) f(ilio) / [Qui]r(ina) Maxim(o) / [A]ugusto / [Ne]meto mil(iti) / [leg(ionis)] XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) / [sti]p(endiorum) VIII stru/[ctor 3]us / [Ve]getus mil(es) / [le]g(ionis) eiusdem / [h]eres eius feci(t)

CIL XIII, 5210 = AE 2001, 1522
Q(uintus) Lucilius Q(uinti) f(ilius) / Vot(uria) Pudens Ber/gomi mil(es) leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) |(centuria) Gelli Agrico/lae ann(orum) XXXIII stip(endiorum) / XIIII h(ic) s(itus) e(st) / her(es) fac(iendum) cur(avit)

CIL XIII, 5211
]/ M(arcus) Magius M(arci) Pob(lilia) Mac/caus Verona mil(es) leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) / |(centuria) Marci Modesti ann(orum) XXXIII / ex testamento h(eredes) f(aciendum) c(uraverunt) / L(ucius) Ennius Secundus / Q(uintus) Romanius Verecundus / h(ic) s(itus) e(st)

CIL XIII 5213
L(ucius) Titennius L(uci) f(ilius) / Lemonia Vic/torinus Bono(nia) / mil(es) leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) p(iae) f(idelis) / |(centuria) Valeriana / annor(um) XXV / stipendior(um) V / h(eres) t(estamento) f(aciendum) c(uravit)

CIL XIII, 5214
C(aius) Valeri/us C(ai) f(ilius) Vol(tinia) / Campanus / Vienna mil(es) / leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) p(iae) f(idelis) / [|(centuria) 3]olni anno(rum) [3] / stip(endiorum) XI t(estamento) f(ieri) [i(ussit)] / C(aius) Cominius / Nemausus [h(eres)] / f(aciendum) c(uravit)

CIL XIII, 5215
L(ucio) Vecna[tio 3] / Pol(lia) Maxim[o] / For(o) Cor(neli) mil(es) l[eg(ionis)] / XI [C(laudiae)] p(iae) f(idelis) |(centuria) Gusor[i] / ann(orum) XLVIII stip(endiorum) [3] / h(ic) s(itus) e(st) / G(aius!) Roscius Om
  • /lus her(es) fac(iendum) c[ur(avit)]

    CIL XIII 5216
    C(aius) Vegelo C(ai) f(ilius) Ani(ensi) / Rufus Cremona / miles leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) / |(centuria) Metti Firmi ann(orum) XL / stip(endiorum) XXI hic situs est sit tibi terra / levis C(aius) Graccius Saturninus / h(eres) f(aciendum) c(uravit)

    CIL XIII, 11507
    Nymphis / C(aius) Viselius / Verecund(us) / veteranus leg(ionis) / XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) / v(otum) s(olvit) l(ibens) m(erito)

    CIL XIII 11508
    Silvano / L(ucius) Flavius / Burrus miles / leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) P(iae) F(idelis) |(centuria) Betuvi / Silonis v(otum) s(olvit) l(ibens) m(erito)

    Finke 108
    M(arcus) / Luxsonius / M(arci) f(ilius) Rom(ilia) Festus / Ates(te) mil(es) leg(ionis) XI [C(laudiae) P(iae)] / F(idelis) |(centuria) Atti Vale[ntis] / ann(orum) XXX st[ip(endiorum) 3 Lux]/sonius [3 miles?] / leg(ionis) eiu[sdem 3 Lux]/soniu[s

    BRISch-02, 183

    [Di]s Manib(us) / G(aius!) Ennius G(ai!) f(ilius) Ve/tur(ia) Titus Pla/cent(ia) mil(es) leg(ionis) / XI |(centuria) Novi Casto/ris ann(orum) XXXVI / stip(endiorum) IX h(ic) s(itus) e(st) t(estamento) f(ieri) i(ussit) heredes / f(aciendum) c(uraverunt)

    Nesselhauf 58
    C(aius) Licinius / Cresce(n)s [m]il(es) / leg(ionis) XI C(laudiae) p(iae) f(idelis) / |(centuria) Coeli / v(otum) s(olvit) l(ibens) m(erito)


    Greets,

    Hans
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#6
Very interesting. I wish I'd asked this question in this way when researching my name(which I'm still a bit uncomfortable with).
My cognomen feels awkward. Any suggestions/comments?
Andy Booker

Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs

Andronikos of Athens
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#7
Hi Andy,

Why would you feel uncomfortable with your cognomen? It is a firmly attested cognomen, also for soldiers in the legions.
It was a particularly popular cognomen in Northern-Africa, where most of the carriers of this cognomen are attested.

I even found a veteran from legio XI Claudia with this cognomen:

AE 1998, 1138
D(is) M(anibus) / M(arcus) Aur(elius) Sat/urninus / vet(eranus) leg(ionis) XI / Cl[audiae

From Sacidava in Moesia inferior.

So I see no reason to regret your choise.

Greets,

Hans
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#8
Thanks,Hansvl. That makes me feel better. I chose it because I'm born in January,who's astrological sign is Capricornus,governed by the planet Saturn. Still, everyone just calls me Andy, even on the field.

Sorry,Aurelianus,for hi-jacking your thread. Your name sounds good to me.
Andy Booker

Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs

Andronikos of Athens
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#9
Thank you all for your great help!

Laudes!
Lucius Domitius Aurelianus
Patrik Pföstl

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Quote:Thanks,Hansvl. That makes me feel better. I chose it because I'm born in January,who's astrological sign is Capricornus, governed by the planet Saturn.

It may not have been that straightforward back then....Note that Augustus' sign was Capricorn, although, as most think, he was born in September. If interested, check out e.g., Tamsyn Barton, "Augustus and Capricorn: Astrological Polyvalency and Imperial Rhetoric," The Journal of Roman Studies, 85 (1995): 33-51.
M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER
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LEG XI CPF

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#11
Does this also take into account the Roman calender being very skewed?
I remember the months being somewhat less than 12,right,since September,October,November and December would be numbers 7,8,9,&10. Am I in the ballpark ?
I guess my logic(or lack of)was to justify my selection.It was my second cognomen anyway.
Alex,where can I find that publication?Is it online?
Andy Booker

Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs

Andronikos of Athens
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#12
Yes, there were suggestions to place Augustus' birthday in December or January, based on the issues with Roman calendars. Most scholars today however (according to the article) date his birthday by September. There are more issues involved, though (conception sign, the role of the moon in defining the horoscope, or both). I found the article online, but suspect that I could access it because I was at Emory U. library at the time. I can just e-mail it to you in a pdf version.
M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER
(Alexander Kyrychenko)
LEG XI CPF

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#13
Thanks,Alex.I'd like to have a copy.The more I can learn and all that...
Andy Booker

Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs

Andronikos of Athens
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Quote:Does this also take into account the Roman calender being very skewed?
I remember the months being somewhat less than 12,right,since September,October,November and December would be numbers 7,8,9,&10. Am I in the ballpark ?

Ahm I hope I understand your question right. The Romans did have 12 months. September being the 7th, October, November and lastly December meaning the 10th is because the Roman year originally started with Martius (March). So January and February would be the months 11 and 12. When the start of the year was changed to January they didn't change the names except for 2 months which were changed, Quintilis becoming Julius
and Sextilis becoming Augustus.
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