06-27-2010, 11:44 PM
Quote:Eeerm, I don't really see a point anywhere near to well founded. You saw some helmets retrieved from the ground after 2500 years,and i bet they were somewhere between the range of black-green, with a few being reddish and some others having a light brown-dark yellow shade. This is only different kinds of patina
Actually, I know what patina is.And 2500 are actually not that much.And since oxidation of bronze only covers the original,there are quite well preserved parts of bronze armor.Nothing strange there.
Quote:Now,this will be my last atempt to convince you,since you repeatedly try to question evidenced views against not evidenced ones,some times not in the politest way.
It is the benefit of the second opinion.
And since you mentioned it - there is very little actually evidenced views. I am surprised you even said that. Only accepted speculations,because we today,just need to have a final saying.We can not admit that we just don’t have an idea,or at least not the whole picture of what was going on…
And please don’t try to bring this down to a personal level.
Quote:There are very very few bronze items that have maintained their polish to a degree that their original colour can be seen.
Meaning everything I am about to show are actually "golden" helmets,just unpolished?
Ok..I will be happy to learn that,believe it or not.
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10% zinc is brass, hardly bronze.Many of these don't look brass...
And here are few more for your gallery just to see I am not denying the existence of yellows.Just challenging the percent of it.Especially in earlier times.And if we can see yellow here,clearly.Why do you think the dark color we see on even better preserved parts(above) is false...
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Quote:Show me one coloured depiction of bronze armour in ancient art that it has any other colour than yellow. Here are some examples,and they're only very few
Coincidentally colored depictions starting only in what..4 BC? So it does not prove much for corinthians I was mainly concerned about.
I would rather stick to the actual armor like you presented.
Giannis K. Hoplite\\n[quote]Not to mention the many sources who speak about the gleaming bronze,reflecting the sun! Or about the helots after the battle of Plataea who couldn't distinguish gold from bronze and where fooled by other greeks who bough gold in the price of bronze!
Now I am not sure why do you think darker bronze can not be polished and shine in sun...etc
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b5637a35fd.jpg
And I am sure you heard of so called Hepatizon. Just to say taste for dark bronze did exist...And I will not even start on statues/statuettes.Why don't make them golden as well if they liked the color so much?Wouldn't it make more sense
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Aleksandar Nikic
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