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(For some reason I can't find the original post, so..)
When I was in the UPenn museum this past week I took another look at their Montefortino and noticed that the cheekpiece rivets were covered up by the metal band around the helmet rim. I don't know if all Montefortinos were like this, but that is pretty slick. Note that the metal banding is flush with the rest of the helmet.
Outside of UPenn Montefortino
I can't even see where the rivet heads might be.
Inside of UPenn Montefortino, showing rivets
Same side.
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Hi Rich
Are those your photos? Can we use them for the database?
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Ave Richard,
on most Montefortino A's I know the rivets are placed above the corded rim in the parallel engraved lines.
Indeed on your pics they are not visible to me. Some spot looks like a rivet on the rim, but it might only be a stain and cheat.
I'll check some high res photographs. Think I've seen that 'invisible' rivet phenomenon before, but I might be wrong.
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Richard, is it possible that it was done like this:
-when making the helmet bowl they riveted the hinge on the outside of the bowl upside down, a little bit above the edge of the bowl. Then they turned a part of the rim of the bowl inside the bowl, at the same time turning the bowl hinge at the inside of the bowl and finishing the bowl rim at the same time?
just a thought :oops: ...
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If you look at the image of the other side from the Helmet Database, the rivet heads are clearly visible, but the craftsman has simply run the beading detail over top of them and thus they blend in- it's the lighting that seesm to allow them to be seen here:
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Ave Matt,
right! And the third rivet on the left is also visible.
That really seems to be the usual place for the rivets. Did they have a square diameter or how could the armourer prevent the engraved rivet heads from turning around?
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What kind of software do you use for enhancing those pics Matt?
Or was the data base pic like that?
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Quote:Are those your photos? Can we use them for the database?
Sure, they're mine and free for you to use. It may show the limit of the lighting and digital camera: I should use the 35mm for this.
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