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Roman Fleet
#1
Hallo!
I'm new on this forum, so I'm not sure if there are any topics like this one. Althought I have been searching for them, however with poor results. :roll: I'm very intersted in some precise information abuot the Roman fleet, especially on the Danube Limes. So if you have got any links or books that could help me I would be very greatful. What is more here are some terms I have problems with:

naves amnicae
musculi scythica
plateypegia
lembi
naves lusoriae
dromones

I would be thankful for their explanation.


Thanks in advance. Smile
Daniel Budacz

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#2
Something about the Fleet of Germania:

- Bazelmans, J. / Jansma, E., "Das Leben an Bord. Im Schiffsfund von De Meern (Niederlande) ist der Alltag auf einem römischen Frachter konserviert", Antike Welt 36 (2005), 23 ff.
- Höckmann, O., "Römische Schiffsverbände auf dem Ober- und Mittelrhein und die Verteidigung der Rheingrenze in der Spätantike", Jahrbuch RGM Mainz 33 (1986), 369 ff.
- "Schiffahrt zwischen Alpen und Nordmeer", in: Wamser, L. (Hrsg.): Die Römer zwischen Alpen und Nordmeer. Ausstellungskatalog, Rosenheim/Mainz (2000) 264 ff.
- Konen, H. C., "Classis Germanica. Die römische Rheinflotte im 1. - 3. Jahrhundert n.Chr.", Pharos 15 (2000).
- Viereck, H. D. L., "Die römische Flotte - Classis romana", Herford (1975).
Susanna

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#3
Antek,
Please add at least your real first name to your signature. Rules of the Forum! :wink:

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#4
some of i know of:

a dromon is a Byzantine ship with oars and a sail, used from the 6th to the 12th century
a plateypegia is a flat-bottomed boat
a naves lusoriae is a slim and flat boat and were used by the Roman river flotillas

check also this site: navis.terraromana.org/
gr,
Jeroen Pelgrom
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#5
Antek,

currently the best thing around on the Danube Fleets is Bounegru & Zahariade (1996) "Les Forces Navales du Bas Danube et de la Mer Noire aux Ier - VIe siecles"...ISBN 1 90018817 1

- but if you wait for a bit... I believe with a bit of luck there'll be three new books on the Roman Fleets by certain members of this Forum coming out in 2007... :wink:

C.
Christoph Rummel
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#6
Quote:Hallo!
I'm new on this forum, so I'm not sure if there are any topics like this one.

Your avatar.. Your head on Caesar's shoulders? Big Grin
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#7
Thx to all of you for help! I forgot to write that I'm only interested in books written in English, or at least German
language (you known my native tongue is Polish Wink )

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PS: I don't want to spam (or whatever you call that, I'm not sure what word in english is best fitted) so can you tell me are here
any topics about Julian the Apostate against Alamanni?
Daniel Budacz

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#8
Antek,

Welcome to RAT.

Try typing 'Julian AND Alamanni' into the search function. That should bring up any topics where both words have been mentioned, although not necessarily together.


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#9
For the navis lusoria you can find more information under www.vefag.de (operational reconstruction) Big Grin

You could also try to get a copy of

ARICESCU, A., 1980, The Army in Roman Dobrudja (= BAR int. Ser. 86), Oxford.

and

FERKEL, H., KONEN, H. and Ch. SCHÄFER, (Eds.), 2004, Navis Lusoria. Ein Römerschiff in Regensburg, St. Katharinen.

(includes an article about naves lusoriae by H.C. Konen, and a short [and not too detailed] article about the late Roman fleets on the Danube by a certain F.W. Himmler)
:wink:

Otherwise the references mentioned by Susanna and L. Aufidius Pantera (greetings to you, Christoph!) are very useful - especially the 1986 article by O. Höckmann.
Florian Himmler (not related!)
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#10
Crispvs
Thanks for nice welcome Smile

Flavius Promotus
I have alredy checked that, you where rigth Smile
Daniel Budacz

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