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many mosaic panels of the 430s soldiers, costumes,...
#1
Hi guys
spent a nice day in Rome yesterday. Was an Italian holiday. Went again to see big and very important church of Santa Maria Maggiore, very near the train station.

You must all know that above both rows of beautiful columns there are a whole series of mosaic panels dating from the 5th century (430s). I had just bought a miniature "telescope" for art tourists and wanted finally to see these mosaics. Indeed I have never found an art book, tourist guide or even expensive ones, that showed the panels. At best you find single shots. Here is a link to the only one I found on the web in the photo-gallery has one that shows soldiers
http://www.vatican.va/various/sm_maggio ... nterno.htm

As I was saying, armed with my telescope, I enjoyed looking at them and indeed many look, to me to be very interesting from point of view of how military are cloaked, dressed, armored, fight,.... Of course they are artistic representations but I believe you would be happy and intrigued to see them yourselves.

Jeff

p.s. Suggestion: try going to the church during a mass! Yes because only then the lights are on. There is no risk you annoy the people following mass because they are seated in the center of the church while the best vantage point to see the panels are from under the columns looking across to view the opposite panels.

p.p.s. it turns out my aunt claims to have a huge rare book on Santa Maria Maggiore. I will be seeing her next week. I am hoping it does show all the panels. If yes then I could plan to scan them
Jeffery Wyss
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#2
Here is a link I found with just 4 of the 36 mosaic panels.
http://www.cvrlab.org/humnet/resources/Mosaics.html

My aunt in Rome has an out-of-print color book of the church of Santa Maria Maggiore and good repreoductions of all the mosaic panels.
I need to find a way to scan them.
Jeffery Wyss
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#3
Thanks! I've not been to Rome for more than a year - I must soon return.
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#4
Thank you Goffredo!!

Also, the arch has many nice late Roman kits. Herod has a great cloak with tablion.
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Hi Goffredo and thanks for the link - laudes awarded!
I also moved the topic to Civ Talk!
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Quote:I also moved the topic to Civ Talk!

is the primary topic the mosaics or the soldiers therein?


EDIT: and here's a link that Restitutus found with all the images!
http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/dbcourses/ ... ?view=666#
Dan Diffendale
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Quote:
Quote:I also moved the topic to Civ Talk!
is the primary topic the mosaics or the soldiers therein?
Since the soldiers (well, the armour) are discussed elsewhere, I judged this was best placed in CivTalk because of the clothing.
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#8
Robert, I have PM'd you. Urgent!
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#9
Please, Goffredo, do all you can to scan these pictures in - you will be doing all Late Roman re-enactors a fantastic service!

Thank you for the link!

Quote:Here is a link I found with just 4 of the 36 mosaic panels.
http://www.cvrlab.org/humnet/resources/Mosaics.html

My aunt in Rome has an out-of-print color book of the church of Santa Maria Maggiore and good repreoductions of all the mosaic panels.
I need to find a way to scan them.
~ Paul Elliott

The Last Legionary
This book details the lives of Late Roman legionaries garrisoned in Britain in 400AD. It covers everything from battle to rations, camp duties to clothing.
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#10
Paul/Mithras-- follow the link I posted above, it'll take you to all the images!
Dan Diffendale
Ph.D. candidate, University of Michigan
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#11
Very cool.

Thanks!

I like the mosaic where bare legged soldiers are wearing open-work boots or sandals, with socks underneath!
~ Paul Elliott

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This book details the lives of Late Roman legionaries garrisoned in Britain in 400AD. It covers everything from battle to rations, camp duties to clothing.
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#12
Ave,

Thank you Goffredo for making us aware of these fantastic mosaics! And thank you Danno for forwarding the link to all the images.

Here are a couple more links that might be of interest:

http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/a ... giore.html
I think the connection they make to the Vatican Virgil is interesting.

http://www.classicalmosaics.com/photo_album.htm
Images of late antique mosaics from Santa Maria Maggoire and a number of other places.

Enjoy,

Lucianus

L.E. Pearson
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