12-07-2006, 05:42 AM
Does anyone have the dimensions of the Guttmann gladius that was sold by Christie's in 2004?
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Guttmann Gladius Dimensions?
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12-07-2006, 09:34 AM
Salve Matt,
The dimensions are as follows: Blade length: 63.6cm Locket: 14.5cm tall The reproduction (made from a cast from the original) was 67.3cm in the scabbard. Vale, Celer.
Marcus Antonius Celer/Julian Dendy.
12-07-2006, 10:40 AM
Much appreciated Julian, thanks!
That puts its width at about 40mm- near the middle of the 38-45mm range of a list of 6 blades presented I think by Peter Connolly
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12-07-2006, 11:06 AM
Julian.
Totally off-topic but, do you have any more pics of the Late Roman Intercisa IV ex-Guttmann helmets (Any news on its present whereabouts)? Many thanks!  Aitor
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12-07-2006, 11:36 AM
One interesting feature I now see clearly in the photo from Christie's is the marking on the blade:
> C VALERI PR C VALERI PRI The Century of Caius (Gaius) Valerius Primus, owner (?) Caius (Gaius) Valerius Primus himself? This is how I have understood such markings to be 'translated' on other objects- the century indicated by the symbol and the Centurio's name, followed by the soldier's name- so is this actually the Centurio's weapon? Photo from Roma-Victrix website, enhanced contrast by yours truly:
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12-07-2006, 11:56 AM
Is that the gladius with the "Mail-opener" on the point?
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12-07-2006, 02:19 PM
Yes, Gauis this is the one with the "quadrifoil"tip. I have a forged blade blank that I was considering attemping this point on.
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12-07-2006, 05:54 PM
There was a discussion a while back that IIRC ended-up that the theory of the 'mail busting tip' was far-fetched and a whole lot less-likely than the rather simpler reinforcement because the point of a stabbing weapon that's only about 4.5mm thick is a weak point in the design...
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12-07-2006, 08:44 PM
I see! Sounds plausible, considering the methods of employment against fellow romans etc
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12-07-2006, 11:06 PM
Matt,
The Connolley article was the one about pila. The one about the sizes of actual swords was by David Hare (AKA 'Pompeiiswords'). Crispvs
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12-07-2006, 11:11 PM
Ah yes, okay- I misplaced the first page of the gladius article so just guessed- wrong :lol:
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