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Sticking Gladius
#1
Anybody with info on "cuering a sticky Gladius"?
My problem is; sometimes when returning my Gladius to it's ---------(scabbord) It sometimes sticks in the corner, this does not look good when on public display,This also hapens to others in the group,
Vale, Gaius Antinius Salis Aka( Joseph Saleh)

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#2
Quote: My problem is; sometimes when returning my Gladius to it's ---------(scabbord)
It's called a vagina. Yes, I know... :roll:

Quote: It sometimes sticks in the corner, this does not look good when on public display,This also hapens to others in the group,
Bore it out a bit? Is the scabbard too narrow or is the problem how and where it's attached to your balteus?[/quote]
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#3
Salve , Thanks for the quick response,
The plate where the Gladius passes into the 'Vagina" is shaped like this <> and the problem lies in the corners, result when returning the gladius if it's not centered the tip gets stuck.
I was considering opening up the opening and lining the entry with leather?
Vale, Gaius Antinius Salis Aka( Joseph Saleh)

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#4
A square edged file?
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

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#5
Gaius:

You can file a little until the shape its more like a rectangle or a elipse.

And, don't forget tp practice a lot. Put your belt withthe gladius at home and make some exercise:

Stringite/ recondite.

:wink:
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#6
I am so glad this question was not asked on another forum I am on. You would never have gotten a straight answer there for sure.
"...quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."


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#7
as has been suggested, try filing out the corners a little bit

Also, oil up your gladius blade really well. (use machine oil, 3-in-1, gun oil) That has certainly helped me.

Also, what style gladius/scabbard do you have? I know on my Deepeeka Pompeii pattern, the chape and decorations are held in place with small brass nails...Unfortunately they were just long enough to go through the wood sides, so apparently the tips got caught on the blade every now and then...If this happens to be the culprit, the easiest solution is to either cut/use shorter nails, or re-nail at a better angle to try and keep the nail in the wood as best you can (and hopefully not poke out the other side!)

You could probably line some leather in the opening as well - just keep in mind that would make the opening a little smaller.
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#8
Quote:
Gaius Antinius Salis:2sf2dlp8 Wrote:My problem is; sometimes when returning my Gladius to it's ---------(scabbord)
It's called a vagina. Yes, I know... :roll:

Quote: It sometimes sticks in the corner, this does not look good when on public display,This also hapens to others in the group,
Bore it out a bit? Is the scabbard too narrow or is the problem how and where it's attached to your balteus?
[/quote]


From Wikipedia
The metal fitting where the blade enters the leather or metal scabbard is called the throat, which is often part of a larger scabbard mount, or locket, that bears a carrying ring or stud to facilitate wearing the sword. The blade's point in leather scabbards is usually protected by a metal tip, or chape, which on both leather and metal scabbards is often given further protection from wear by an extension called a drag, or shoe.

I've never heard it described your way before, but I'll certainly remember it.
Steve
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#9
Caution with the oil! :roll:

If the wood of the scabbard are very thigh-fitting and are little room between wood and the blade, don't put oil. The reason is because the wood can expand absorbing some oil!
:wink:
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#10
In addition to the tips on widening the mouth of the scabbard, you could also consider the technique you use to place the sword back in its scabbard. I used to have the problem you describe (amongst other related problems) and found that the solution was to turn the sword by 90 degrees whilst still vertical and place the point of the sword in the scabbard mouth. This should mean that it naturally locates the widest part of the opening. Then simply turn the blade, keeping the point located at that point and you should find that the blade drops smoothly into the scabbard.

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#11
I had this embarressing problem! I oiled my sword like mad and kept resheathing it so the oil soaked the scabbard. It seems OK now. Just keep your weapon ...well lubricated ... for insertion into the ... ermmm :oops:
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#12
Quote:In addition to the tips on widening the mouth of the scabbard, you could also consider the technique you use to place the sword back in its scabbard. I used to have the problem you describe (amongst other related problems) and found that the solution was to turn the sword by 90 degrees whilst still vertical and place the point of the sword in the scabbard mouth. This should mean that it naturally locates the widest part of the opening. Then simply turn the blade, keeping the point located at that point and you should find that the blade drops smoothly into the scabbard.

Crispvs

Wow if you replace 'scabbard' with the appropriate latin term, thats sounds so bad, haha. I find it supremely amusing that this particular piece of modern 'proper' terminology comes from soldier-slang.
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Quote:Wow if you replace 'scabbard' with the appropriate latin term, thats sounds so bad, haha. I find it supremely amusing that this particular piece of modern 'proper' terminology comes from soldier-slang.

Hm. What did you think 'gladius' was slang for? Big Grin
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#14
Well I didn't think of gladius being slang, just there's the (painfully) obvious innuendo there, like any number of things that can be converted into slang for the male genetalia in English.
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#15
Well in German it's the same. One word for scabbard and female genitalia :wink:
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