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NOT a greave padding on Romancoins
#31
Careful with the bacteria then, Robert! :wink:

Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.

Rolf Steiner
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#32
Very similar to a couple of these (getting away from Jake the Peg :wink: )

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#33
Hi from Luzern.

Just a note to let you know that I got the photo of the greeve liner earlier this week. To be honest I believe the fabric to be part of the conservation as Mike had stated. It does not show very well in the photo, but you can see in person that the cloth is used to back the leather.

Aitor,

I got the photo of the only plumbata that was on displaz for you also.



I should be back on Monday to post some photos.
"...quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."


a.k.a. Paul M.
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#34
Quote:Aitor,
I got the photo of the only plumbata that was on displaz for you also.
me too me too me too!! Big Grin
Robert Vermaat
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#35
Certainly looks like cloth behind the leather in the photo! :wink:
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#36
Thanks Paul! Big Grin

To be sincere, I asked you about a small wooden catapult bolt but I'll be equally happy with the plumbata! 8)

I too think that the textile is an integral part of the liner. I wrot an e-mail to Carol asking her about that, but I've received no answer yet.

Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.

Rolf Steiner
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#37
That's what I do. I don't believe that soldiers in the 4thC wore leg wraps over trousers, but I do wear leg wraps when marching across country or when I'm about to don greaves. They fit the bill perfectly.

Quote:I honestly wonder if they wrapped their legs with cloth wraps before wearing greaves. Something like a puttee, or the squares from the leg in Denmark.


Jim you will owe me a bottle of Oatmeal Stout for the pics!
~ Paul Elliott

The Last Legionary
This book details the lives of Late Roman legionaries garrisoned in Britain in 400AD. It covers everything from battle to rations, camp duties to clothing.
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#38
Folks,
I've just received an e-mail from Carol... with bad news! Definitely, the fragment isn't a greave liner! Sad

Dear Aitor
I'm very sorry to disappoint you, but this object is unlikely to be a
greave lining. I'm sure there are greave linings of textile, but this
piece of leather has simply been dried in a fanciful shape, on (as
you rightly noticed) a rough textile backing. The excavator, Gansser-
Burckhardt had some very strange ideas, and jumped to conclusions on
the basis of what he thought something looked like. He then shaped it
into the form he wanted and let the leather dry - so now it is very
difficult to see what it actually is. When I looked at the piece, I
could see normal seams in some places , which shows it was originally
part of something much bigger, from the straight sides, probably a
tent. If it was a greave lining, the edges would have been finished
off with a hem, and there would also be stitching for the attachment
of fastening buckles. In fact none of the leather clothing which
Gansser Burckhardt claimed to have found at Vindonissa is real. He
just made it all up so he could present something nice to the public. Actually, I think padded cloth would be far more comfortable as a
greave lining: you certainly need something with padding, because it
is extremely painful (so the Ermine Street Guard tell me) to be hit
on the metal greave if it is directly on the leg.
With best wishes
Carol


Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.

Rolf Steiner
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#39
Well, that puts an end to that one Cry

Thanks Aitor, and thank Carol for me at least... I think :wink:

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