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Byzantine Weapons and Warfare
Orlirva wrote
Quote:http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/Byz/MenavCandidate.JPG is the model

My major problem with this is that AFAIK menavlia are first mentioned in a 10th century treatise, but the representation this reconstruction is based upon dates to the 6th century. Just seems like too much of a stretch to me. There's no indication as far as I can see, in the original description, that would suggest an edge of this sort on a menavlion.

Also, I would take issue with the idea of the menavlion being a relatively short pole-arm on the lines of a glaive or halberd. The length of the shaft is specified in Nikephoros Ouranos' Taktika as 1.5 to 2 orguiai ("fathoms"). This has been interpreted [Schilbach] as being equivalent to 2.8-3.7 metres (9'2"-12'2") or even 3.2-4.2 metres (10'6"-13'9"). gis would make it far too long and unwieldy to use in this manner.

Tim Dawson's treatise "Fit for the Task" in Byzantine and Modern Greek Studies (Vol 31 No. 1 of 2007), using an interpretation that considerably reduces the length of an orguia from Schilbach's, proposes 2.3-3.1 metres (7'6"-10'2"). But even with this reduced length, it's hard to see it being possible to use it like a halberd or glaive.
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Steven Lowe
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Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-06-2006, 12:24 AM
Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Peter Raftos - 11-09-2006, 02:32 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-09-2006, 03:25 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-09-2006, 06:25 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-09-2006, 06:35 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-11-2006, 10:58 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Dan Howard - 11-11-2006, 11:21 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-12-2006, 06:27 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Arahne - 11-14-2006, 06:56 AM
Now for something completely different - by Felix - 11-21-2006, 11:12 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Felix - 11-22-2006, 10:45 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-24-2006, 12:16 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ioannis - 11-25-2006, 11:01 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Felix - 11-29-2006, 09:48 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-10-2006, 04:30 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-10-2006, 07:26 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-12-2006, 07:44 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-13-2006, 06:32 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by spyros - 12-15-2006, 10:16 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by spyros - 12-15-2006, 01:22 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-17-2006, 09:48 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-18-2006, 03:15 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-19-2006, 09:14 PM
Cataphracts and Clibanarii - by ahlricthewanderer - 01-14-2007, 07:36 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-15-2007, 05:10 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 03-14-2007, 04:07 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Josef - 03-26-2007, 07:29 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 04-01-2007, 04:38 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Josef - 04-01-2007, 10:17 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Josef - 04-03-2007, 10:25 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Arahne - 04-08-2007, 10:15 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Felix - 04-18-2007, 08:18 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 04-21-2007, 09:51 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 04-25-2007, 10:10 AM
Why 1071? - by perrygray - 04-30-2007, 06:01 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 05-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 05-01-2007, 07:09 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by perrygray - 05-02-2007, 04:38 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 05-02-2007, 09:25 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 05-02-2007, 05:25 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-13-2007, 11:39 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-14-2007, 04:09 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-14-2007, 11:29 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-15-2007, 05:45 AM
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Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-15-2007, 09:48 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-15-2007, 10:42 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-15-2007, 10:54 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-16-2007, 09:06 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 05-16-2007, 01:41 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 06-16-2007, 01:37 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 07-12-2007, 10:27 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 07-16-2007, 01:17 AM
Illustrations - by Graham Sumner - 07-16-2007, 12:54 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-16-2007, 08:34 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-16-2007, 09:47 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-16-2007, 10:02 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-16-2007, 10:47 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-16-2007, 11:20 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 07-17-2007, 05:48 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-17-2007, 08:05 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-18-2007, 10:33 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by MARCENTIUS - 07-18-2007, 10:50 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 07-18-2007, 11:15 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 07-19-2007, 04:40 PM
Syrianus Magister - by Alexandr K - 07-22-2007, 06:38 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Nectanebo - 07-26-2007, 06:52 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Nectanebo - 07-26-2007, 09:48 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 07-28-2007, 11:41 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Idomeneas - 07-31-2007, 08:12 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Nectanebo - 07-31-2007, 09:34 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Idomeneas - 08-01-2007, 10:47 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 08-02-2007, 03:02 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Nectanebo - 08-02-2007, 06:31 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 08-04-2007, 07:56 PM
Byzantine Naval Warfare - by Peter Raftos - 08-18-2007, 04:10 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 08-18-2007, 05:18 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 08-19-2007, 12:49 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 08-19-2007, 02:49 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Laran - 09-16-2007, 10:29 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 10-12-2007, 07:08 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 10-15-2007, 01:44 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 10-26-2007, 08:51 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 10-27-2007, 06:52 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 11-01-2007, 02:30 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 11-01-2007, 07:37 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 11-01-2007, 08:27 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 11-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 12-13-2007, 08:14 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 12-14-2007, 08:44 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-23-2007, 09:55 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-24-2007, 09:56 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-26-2007, 08:39 PM
Byzantine weapons and warfare - by Paullus Scipio - 12-26-2007, 09:05 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-26-2007, 11:04 PM
Byzantine weapons and armour - by Paullus Scipio - 12-26-2007, 11:42 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-27-2007, 03:34 AM
Kite Shield - by Paullus Scipio - 12-27-2007, 04:03 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-27-2007, 09:21 PM
Menavlion - by Paullus Scipio - 12-27-2007, 09:50 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-27-2007, 10:17 PM
Re: Menavlion - by Urselius - 12-27-2007, 10:58 PM
Byzantine weapons - by Paullus Scipio - 12-28-2007, 12:22 AM
Re: Kite Shield - by egfroth - 12-28-2007, 03:24 AM
Flat topped shield - by Paullus Scipio - 12-28-2007, 04:38 AM
The Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 12-28-2007, 05:14 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-28-2007, 09:28 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-28-2007, 08:10 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-30-2007, 09:56 PM
Re: Kite Shield - by kuura - 01-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-01-2008, 09:48 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-02-2008, 02:50 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-02-2008, 06:39 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-02-2008, 12:32 PM
Byzantine Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 01-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-03-2008, 01:03 AM
Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 01-03-2008, 02:34 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-03-2008, 10:19 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 01-05-2008, 10:29 AM
Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 01-05-2008, 07:39 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-05-2008, 09:49 PM
Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 01-05-2008, 10:50 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-06-2008, 01:34 AM
Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 01-06-2008, 07:30 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-07-2008, 07:44 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-08-2008, 12:49 AM
Menaulion - by Paullus Scipio - 01-08-2008, 03:19 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-08-2008, 08:44 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 01-08-2008, 11:09 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-08-2008, 12:23 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-09-2008, 01:19 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-10-2008, 08:21 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-21-2008, 06:44 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-21-2008, 08:29 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-22-2008, 03:47 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 01-22-2008, 08:38 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-23-2008, 06:34 AM
Menavlion and Kontaria - by Paullus Scipio - 01-26-2008, 04:12 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 01-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Byzantine weapons - kontos - by Paullus Scipio - 01-30-2008, 09:25 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 03-06-2008, 01:01 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 03-13-2008, 10:29 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 03-13-2008, 10:42 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 03-14-2008, 02:17 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 03-14-2008, 08:40 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 03-17-2008, 08:29 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 03-17-2008, 09:27 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 03-18-2008, 10:20 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by dimgall - 03-26-2008, 08:07 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by dimgall - 03-26-2008, 05:14 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by dimgall - 03-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 04-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Emerors guard - by Martin Wallgren - 04-02-2008, 06:55 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Ironhand - 04-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Chilperic - 04-04-2008, 02:07 PM
Lamellar Construction - by Ioannes_Ahenobarbus - 04-05-2008, 02:05 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 04-22-2008, 08:51 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Mitra - 05-16-2008, 05:47 PM
Wiki Page - by Urselius - 05-25-2008, 09:21 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 05-27-2008, 07:55 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 05-29-2008, 09:14 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Adam E. - 06-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Adam E. - 06-08-2008, 02:35 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Adam E. - 06-09-2008, 08:55 AM
Byzantine flamethrower - by Paullus Scipio - 07-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Re: Byzantine flamethrower - by Robert Vermaat - 07-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Byzantine flamethrower - by Paullus Scipio - 07-27-2008, 10:36 PM
Re: Byzantine flamethrower - by Eleatic Guest - 07-27-2008, 11:17 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Octavianvs - 08-23-2008, 09:34 PM
Byzantine questions - by Orlirva - 10-08-2008, 02:45 PM
Re: Byzantine questions - by kuura - 10-09-2008, 12:02 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 10-09-2008, 09:04 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 10-10-2008, 07:13 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 10-10-2008, 12:06 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Adam E. - 10-11-2008, 12:09 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 10-15-2008, 02:45 AM
menavlion - by Orlirva - 10-15-2008, 06:02 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 10-16-2008, 07:16 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 10-16-2008, 01:47 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 10-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 10-27-2008, 04:28 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 10-27-2008, 09:09 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 10-27-2008, 09:16 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 10-28-2008, 09:39 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 10-30-2008, 02:14 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 10-30-2008, 02:45 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 11-03-2008, 02:46 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 11-11-2008, 07:17 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Orlirva - 11-12-2008, 04:13 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by egfroth - 12-02-2008, 09:42 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-05-2008, 01:10 AM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-05-2008, 03:22 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-05-2008, 09:07 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by kuura - 12-06-2008, 11:58 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-07-2008, 06:23 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-07-2008, 07:32 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-08-2008, 04:53 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-08-2008, 08:34 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-08-2008, 08:53 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Urselius - 12-08-2008, 09:30 PM
Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by Steakslim - 12-14-2008, 05:55 PM
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Re: Byzantine Weapons and Warfare - by marcust - 12-21-2008, 12:52 AM
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