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FABULOUS late period ivory buckle...
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#1
09-18-2006, 04:23 PM
with scenes of the soldiers sleeping at the tomb of Christ!

I want one!!

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09-18-2006, 05:33 PM
6th century?
[Image: 120px-Septimani_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png] [Image: Estalada.gif]
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#3
09-18-2006, 06:00 PM
Very nice - do you have any bibliographical (or other) details on it, Travis?
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09-18-2006, 06:42 PM
I could make one, if you want. Not cheap, though. PM me, if you want.
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#5
09-19-2006, 03:37 PM
Actually, iconographically it looks most like a 4th-5th century model.

Here's a comparable ivory diptych, same iconography:

http://www.udel.edu/ArtHistory/nees/209/images/4-12.jpg

(Incidentally, this is from Lawrence Nees website - FYI Nees is reevaluating all so-called "barbarian" art. His article is forthcoming. He is an expert at 4-6th C. fibulae! Can't wait!)

I have no info, only an image from that website.

Here's the site:

http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/his ... hlberg.htm

Perhaps Muhlberger knows its provenance.

As for making one, I've already got my wife on it. She makes polymer clay jewelry and I think she can make a reasonable ivory substitute.

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09-19-2006, 03:56 PM
Scroll down...
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09-19-2006, 05:16 PM
Is it just me or are the poses and the general symetry of the piece reminiscent of some of the plates from the Sutton Hoo helmet and some of the Vendell helmets?

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09-19-2006, 05:37 PM
Quote:Is it just me or are the poses and the general symetry of the piece reminiscent of some of the plates from the Sutton Hoo helmet and some of the Vendell helmets?

Crispvs

It's not just you. Stylisitically it is more in line with 6th & 7th C.

The iconography is definitely 4th C., right down to the little cupola on christ's tomb. Based on that I would date it earlier but you're right.

could it be a 6th C. artist looking at a 4th C. diptych?

hmmm.
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