04-02-2010, 08:29 AM
Morning Alanus. (Thus is it here).
The haplotype and gene thing is fascinating, or soon will be. Matter of time before the celtomaniacs hijack it as per hijacking every other damnned thing and wrecking it.
Anyway, in this subject underdiscussion look for Y Chrom R1a1. This seems to be the kiddy. HaploType G8 is another. Dont ask questions about it because I am finding it a struggle to take in. No doubt Doctorrr KD will also discover that everything in this world was invented by wimmin...Keltic ones at that.
I do concur with you that the Vandal Alan link is massive,. Much more than is suggested. And that is goes back earlier to that copmm,only discussed by historians ..prior to crossing of the Rhine etc. The Vandals, nowadays, are widely recognised as being Slawic. That reinforces the theory. Their also makes it pretty clear what they were. ..whatever other theories there may be.
Reverting to Haplotypes, the problem with the Scots in this matter is the very large migrations Scotland to POland in 1300s and 1600s..(if I recall the centuries right). These seem to have been Northern Scots and not Borderers. But shared Haplotypes between the Borders and Poland do exist at a siginificant lvel and I think it can be treated separately. AS you imply, it is all complicated by the Messageta question and Norway. Its interesting that Sweden has a high level of lactase deficiency in adults and Norway not. So, maybe the Norwegians were indeed Krygyz cattle herders at one time?? Their traditional boats are real Dnieper type too!Long before all this hiastory became known and fashionable, I sed to sincerely bgelieve that Vikings going down to the Black Sea werent explorers at all and merely opportunists "doing what Granddad did becaue thats where they came from anyway.."
I too believe Roxalan means Light Alan. Of course, the Sultans delicious girly wirly of legend was Roxalana or Roxanna. I forget the name of her vilalge where she was captured but its the heart of Alannic Ukraine. Of course, the Westernn Alans maybe have been fairer too!!
If you re looking for useful vocab, try Pashtu. Lots of words in it we can use. Quite a lot with Danish similarities. Incidently, the Danes had a very big Celtic "thing" in early times and thats not well explained either. Talking of Scotland//The Auld Territoire just got blatted with about 3 foot of snow. Easter Bunny is cussing and blinding.
The haplotype and gene thing is fascinating, or soon will be. Matter of time before the celtomaniacs hijack it as per hijacking every other damnned thing and wrecking it.
Anyway, in this subject underdiscussion look for Y Chrom R1a1. This seems to be the kiddy. HaploType G8 is another. Dont ask questions about it because I am finding it a struggle to take in. No doubt Doctorrr KD will also discover that everything in this world was invented by wimmin...Keltic ones at that.
I do concur with you that the Vandal Alan link is massive,. Much more than is suggested. And that is goes back earlier to that copmm,only discussed by historians ..prior to crossing of the Rhine etc. The Vandals, nowadays, are widely recognised as being Slawic. That reinforces the theory. Their also makes it pretty clear what they were. ..whatever other theories there may be.
Reverting to Haplotypes, the problem with the Scots in this matter is the very large migrations Scotland to POland in 1300s and 1600s..(if I recall the centuries right). These seem to have been Northern Scots and not Borderers. But shared Haplotypes between the Borders and Poland do exist at a siginificant lvel and I think it can be treated separately. AS you imply, it is all complicated by the Messageta question and Norway. Its interesting that Sweden has a high level of lactase deficiency in adults and Norway not. So, maybe the Norwegians were indeed Krygyz cattle herders at one time?? Their traditional boats are real Dnieper type too!Long before all this hiastory became known and fashionable, I sed to sincerely bgelieve that Vikings going down to the Black Sea werent explorers at all and merely opportunists "doing what Granddad did becaue thats where they came from anyway.."
I too believe Roxalan means Light Alan. Of course, the Sultans delicious girly wirly of legend was Roxalana or Roxanna. I forget the name of her vilalge where she was captured but its the heart of Alannic Ukraine. Of course, the Westernn Alans maybe have been fairer too!!
If you re looking for useful vocab, try Pashtu. Lots of words in it we can use. Quite a lot with Danish similarities. Incidently, the Danes had a very big Celtic "thing" in early times and thats not well explained either. Talking of Scotland//The Auld Territoire just got blatted with about 3 foot of snow. Easter Bunny is cussing and blinding.
Roderic Wout..
Today\'s truths are often tomorrow\'s lies
Today\'s truths are often tomorrow\'s lies
