04-02-2010, 02:35 AM
By the way, Dashydog
Thanks for the tip on the White Stag.
The stag shows up standing next to Cernnunos, god of Anderes (the otherworld), on the Gunderstop cauldron. The significance of the animal continued into the Christian era. Here, the stag is the "helper" in various histro-legendary Lives of the Saints (see that of Petroc, Teilo, and good old Saint David). Interestingly, a pair of yoked stags help King Tewdrig/Theodoric reach his heavenly reward (found in the Liber Landavensis). They are also paired on the cult wagon found in Steiermark, Austria. In the Celtic cemetary at Mont Granet (France), a stag was buried exactly like a human.
Likewise the stag aided the Alans in reaching "Dreamland" (the I-E homeland?). In Alanic kugans, such as the ones at Filippovka, the animal is found in the outer chamber, not upon the deceased person, along with things needed for him/her to ride back to the ancestors. In one case, in a satellite kurgan at Issuk Kul, the stag was attached to the person, evidently a young and high noble or (as Dr. Davis-Kimball would have it) a high warrior priestess. (This "young noble" was buried with sets of earrings).
I see a correlation here, a cultural connection that is missing in the civilized Gaeco-Roman and barbaric German societies.
But then again maybe the deer was retorically, and definatively (casting all Campbellic theories aside) named Alan, or maybe Elan(d)... an African deer-like animal that showed up in ancient Britain, one of which married the famous Maxim Wledig and had five children (in about the same number of years) who, in turn, were the progenitors of just about every famous British king in the pedigrees, maybe even Queen Elizabeth. :wink: In that case, we can Celtically assume that the Alanic culture was named after Mannus, or his son McMannus. :roll: Does that convert the Alans into Irish?
Thanks for the tip on the White Stag.
The stag shows up standing next to Cernnunos, god of Anderes (the otherworld), on the Gunderstop cauldron. The significance of the animal continued into the Christian era. Here, the stag is the "helper" in various histro-legendary Lives of the Saints (see that of Petroc, Teilo, and good old Saint David). Interestingly, a pair of yoked stags help King Tewdrig/Theodoric reach his heavenly reward (found in the Liber Landavensis). They are also paired on the cult wagon found in Steiermark, Austria. In the Celtic cemetary at Mont Granet (France), a stag was buried exactly like a human.
Likewise the stag aided the Alans in reaching "Dreamland" (the I-E homeland?). In Alanic kugans, such as the ones at Filippovka, the animal is found in the outer chamber, not upon the deceased person, along with things needed for him/her to ride back to the ancestors. In one case, in a satellite kurgan at Issuk Kul, the stag was attached to the person, evidently a young and high noble or (as Dr. Davis-Kimball would have it) a high warrior priestess. (This "young noble" was buried with sets of earrings).
I see a correlation here, a cultural connection that is missing in the civilized Gaeco-Roman and barbaric German societies.
But then again maybe the deer was retorically, and definatively (casting all Campbellic theories aside) named Alan, or maybe Elan(d)... an African deer-like animal that showed up in ancient Britain, one of which married the famous Maxim Wledig and had five children (in about the same number of years) who, in turn, were the progenitors of just about every famous British king in the pedigrees, maybe even Queen Elizabeth. :wink: In that case, we can Celtically assume that the Alanic culture was named after Mannus, or his son McMannus. :roll: Does that convert the Alans into Irish?
Alan J. Campbell
member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians
Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)
"It's good to be king. Even when you're dead!"
Old Yuezhi/Pazyrk proverb
member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians
Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)
"It's good to be king. Even when you're dead!"
Old Yuezhi/Pazyrk proverb