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Is there anyone who can help identify these items. They were found in the Netherlands with loads of other roman items. I presume they are Roman but who knows.
The paper clip is the regular size, not one of the giant ones.
The transverse openings go all the way through.
Can anyone help figure out what these little green metal items are?
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I want to remind that the trade of arqueological objects produces irreversible damages in many sites.
On the other hand, to isolate an archaeological object of his context does that this object loses important information for his datación, or even for his interpretation. As archeologist , I ask please that nobody don't buy more objects in Internet. Remeber, prop 90 they are fake or imitations.
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What if the provenance is given, Cesar? Items can be just as suspect coming from a shop, it's not only on the internet.
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It is the same thing. I have put "Internet" because today in day it is the method preferred to acquire this type of objects.
Detectorists breaks the stratigraphy of the sites, and make even more dificult to the public to knows an object.
The archaeological objects should be extracted of the sites by archeologists with archaeological skills. A small critique is that probably must to publish more and better the the results and finds of excavations
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Thanks for the reply.
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I did not mean to start an argument here. I was just curious what these things are.
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Quote:what these things are.
Probably stolen from an archaeological site in the Netherlands?
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I get it... we shouldn't discuss the function of artifacts on this board unless they are in a museum. Now I know for future reference. Silly me.
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while not an expert I've never seen anything like them before. Probably no one else has either. And since they were dug out of who knows where they could be from any time period or from any people who happened to be there at the time.
If they were from the Netherlands, don't they have laws about trading in antiquities? Which makes you wonder if they even are (ie, fakes).
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Guys, the rule is that you can't offer them for sale here, nor link to where they are on sale. It IS allowed to display an image and discuss the items shown. Tarbicus, the discussion you're ruffling up should go in a separate thread, so Doug's legitimate question is not hijacked.
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Sorry Doug,
New topic started.
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Quote:Doug Strong:3cisgrp9 Wrote:Can anyone help figure out what these little green metal items are?
*Wild Guess Warning*
About the 3 similar pieces to the right - I know of a treasure find of a bracelet and necklace in gold composed of pieces similarily shaped like the ones above. Size is about the same, also, or a bit smaller. Unfortunately I can't remember from where that find come or what century it is dated to, sorry.
So my best wild guess would be bronze (= somewhat cheap) jewellry ...
The ones on the right is clearly different. The other three could be from a piece of jewelry. My curiosity as that I have seen them offered for sale before and I have noot been able to figure out what they were. My knowledge of things roman is not at the level of things medieval so I thought I would post them here. I thought it was possible that someone would say those are... 1st century Roman nose berries... a very common item dangled from soldiers noses when returning from battle.. or perhaps something slightly less ridiculous.
i guess they are not a comon item.
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Quote:Sorry Doug,
New topic started.
No probelm.
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