08-05-2006, 02:52 PM
quote Tarbicvs:
When it comes to the desire to fight, I wonder how many samurai threatened to kill their leaders if they tried to stop them? There are also references to Dacia and the Romans being in trouble because of the falx, etc, but they won, didn't they?
Wellllllllllll... I guess about the same amount........ it did happen during battles that the high ranking samurai fled, while the lower ranking samurai fought on.... killing their masters afterwards for their cowardness.
also there are numerous stories about heroic and suicidal last stands, not because it was nessecary, but because the samurai who died would be heroes to everyone, also their enemies..... and of course to prove a point..
That is why in japanese culture a loser most of the times gets a lot of respect, but only when he loses with his honour..... or by performing seppuku.
The Romans Won the war against the Dacians by exterminating the entire Dacian tribe, men women and children indiscriminately, armed and unarmed, only to leave the Dacian region not that long afterwards, compared to the longevity of their rule elsewhere in the Empire.
and petrininus....... i agree completely!
M.VIB.M.
When it comes to the desire to fight, I wonder how many samurai threatened to kill their leaders if they tried to stop them? There are also references to Dacia and the Romans being in trouble because of the falx, etc, but they won, didn't they?
Wellllllllllll... I guess about the same amount........ it did happen during battles that the high ranking samurai fled, while the lower ranking samurai fought on.... killing their masters afterwards for their cowardness.
also there are numerous stories about heroic and suicidal last stands, not because it was nessecary, but because the samurai who died would be heroes to everyone, also their enemies..... and of course to prove a point..
That is why in japanese culture a loser most of the times gets a lot of respect, but only when he loses with his honour..... or by performing seppuku.
The Romans Won the war against the Dacians by exterminating the entire Dacian tribe, men women and children indiscriminately, armed and unarmed, only to leave the Dacian region not that long afterwards, compared to the longevity of their rule elsewhere in the Empire.
and petrininus....... i agree completely!
M.VIB.M.
Bushido wa watashi no shuukyou de gozaru.
Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!
H.J.Vrielink.
Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!
H.J.Vrielink.
