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Theban Army, Battle of Luectra
#46
The truth is that he overdo it some time, but all in all I like his art.
Spyros Kaltikopoulos


Honor to those who in the life they lead
define and guard a Thermopylae.
Never betraying what is right,
consistent and just in all they do
but showing pity also, and compassion
Kavafis the Alexandrian
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#47
Like I said, I like his art. He's just exaggerating much...

And, from my 3D experiance, he's working with 3D MODELS and MATERIALS... If you check the paints with a "lupa" (magnifying-glass), you will notise repeatedly SPECIFIC details on each material, the textures are TOO MUCH photorealistic in some parts and LESS in other parts; and the HUMAN BODY has by far LESS details, comparing with the outfits.
Infact, the human body looks like "blurr" in some parts...

Anyway... NO MATTER what technique you using (this is the 21th century AD, not... Michelangelo or Rafaelo's age!), his work gives GREAT resaults; and THAT's the whole point of an illustration... For example, my uncle is a classic painter, I took my first "foot-steps" close to him and he's accusing my "new" technique, of making my paints in digital format directly. But, I'm saving TONES of time and the resaults of mine, an oil-color painter would need LOTS of hours to make the same... So, it's all about personal needs... Also, I met several good Comuter Graphics designers. Very few could make similar illustrations... Having/using an F-18 Hornet, doesn't mean that you can beat the opponent. You MUST know HOW to use it and HOW to make the plane reach its "limits"...

(And... if someone CAN, let's copy his technique! Can anybody do that?)
aka Romilos

"Ayet`, oh Spartan euandro... koroi pateron poliatan... laia men itin provalesthe,
...dori d`eutolmos anhesthe, ...mi phidomenoi tas zoas. Ouh gar patrion ta Sparta!
"
- The Lacedaimonian War Tune -
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#48
Wow-! Great images..! The boots are very interesting. I wonder if the boots of Iphicrates looked like this..? The Pilos helmet was very popular I see...
Do you have any images of slingers or peltasts..?
Thanks,
Johnny
Johnny Shumate
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#49
Glad you like them Johnny, Smile

Actually the “Iphicratides” were “closed” sandals, or open-toe boots, depending. They looked something like this:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/ ... hicrat.jpg

More info on general Iphicrates here:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sarson ... ates1.html
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sarson ... ates2.html

Also, the pictures of peltasts you asked for:
http://monolith.dnsalias.org/~marsares/ ... peltas.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/ ... dra-03.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/ ... eath-1.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/ ... athens.jpg

As for the Pylos helmet, I think that we can consider it the M1 US helmet equivalent of that time. Cheap and simple to mass produce. Also very stylish, after all if the spartans used it than it good enough for everybody
Spyros Kaltikopoulos


Honor to those who in the life they lead
define and guard a Thermopylae.
Never betraying what is right,
consistent and just in all they do
but showing pity also, and compassion
Kavafis the Alexandrian
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#50
Spyros,
Thanks again for the images...
What I'm interested in seeing are images on Greek pottery with shepherds, slingers, peltasts, psiloi, etc...on them. The Osprey book, "The Ancient Greeks" has many that are very helpful.
Thanks for your efforts...
Johnny
Johnny Shumate
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#51
Ok, sorry I couldn't be more of help. I don't have any such photos Probably I should arange a museum hunt one of these days and upload the photos somewhere.
Spyros Kaltikopoulos


Honor to those who in the life they lead
define and guard a Thermopylae.
Never betraying what is right,
consistent and just in all they do
but showing pity also, and compassion
Kavafis the Alexandrian
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#52
Paul given the fact that it was considered the highest of honour to be burried in the battle field I strongly doubt that Plateans took their dead back.
So "corinthians" still remain an option for me.
We seem to have with Giorgos close to the actual image of the HIEROS lochos shield device but we work to substantiate our claim.

Johhny the Comeros has posted the stele of a Beotian warrior that now is in Levadea museum I think it is in the Greek footware.

Kind regards
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#53
Even so it is still by the ancient testimony the grave of the freed slaves also, so I don’t see the archeology as being decisive, one might even suggest a greater likelihood of freed slave casualties vs. Plataean do to a relative lack of skill.
Paul Klos

\'One day when I fly with my hands -
up down the sky,
like a bird\'
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