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Drawings of Roman soldiers
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06-15-2006, 06:05 PM
Quote:Very nice picture!! Do you have more?Hello Thank you for your appreciation. I am currently working on some new illustration for my portfolio (along with some work for clients). here is a drawing from a illustration I am doing know. Best regards JP Vieira
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06-16-2006, 08:38 AM
Quote:here is a drawing from a illustration I am doing know. Ah, a 3rd-c. vexillarius. Comments: Most items look good, but I would change some details. The helmet (an Intercisa I, presumably) is too early I think for the rest of the equipment. Most importantly though, you seem to have used Osprey's "Late Roman Infantryman' as a source, because your helmet shows those abominable 'ear-plugs' that were dreamed up in that book!!! The rope used to carry the shield seems not very thick, but I can tell you that given the weight of the shield, the shoulder of this poor man will fall off in a few hours!  Can't you supply him with a more comportable wide baldric-type belt?I'm not sure, but I think the baldric may show more tension, because the sword that is suspended from it weighs quite a bit. Have you used a live model for these details? Like this on: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/ ... s/ww15.jpg (fellow-Rat member Mithras). More of his pics here: http://www.geocities.com/zozergames/roman6.html
Robert Vermaat
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06-17-2006, 10:23 AM
Quote:JP Vieira:2qmr90tv Wrote:here is a drawing from a illustration I am doing know. Ah, a 3rd-c. vexillarius. Comments: Hello Many thanks for your comments; they are very helpfull to me. My aim is to produce art as reallistic as possibily. I do not use live models; i use my imagination and reference images. I was particullary ingterested in your comments about the "phisics" of the equipment; they are sometimes forgotten by the illustrators (mea culpa). I hope to continue to have your help in this matter. I will use your comments to improve my work. Many thanks Best regards JP Vieira Ps: I add another illustration (draconarius) care to comment, please?
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06-18-2006, 05:18 PM
Hi JP,
I split this one off from the original thread. Comments? Hardly any, I must say - he looks great! Just the helmet, that is too 'pointed'- the Berkasovo is more round. It also needs more rivets, but that's details I presume.
Robert Vermaat
MODERATOR FECTIO Late Romans THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST (Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
06-18-2006, 06:42 PM
Quote:Hi JP, Hello Many thanks for your comments; it will be helpfull to improve my work. Best regards JP Vieira
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06-19-2006, 07:41 AM
For your standard bearer, watch out. His sword arm is bent to allow him to grip the sword hilt, but his elbow can't really get in that position due to the shield on his back. Having worn it all like that, the 'physics' are a pain in the neck!!
I would never normally mention such details, unless asked ...  Quote:Vortigern Studies:14pmi1x7 Wrote:Very nice picture!! Do you have more?Hello
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06-19-2006, 06:57 PM
I would also question the wide baldric. It looks to me like a late second - mid third century type baldric along with a mid third century belt. This combination is fine but the overal look of the rest of the figure is probably late third the mid fourth century. Others in this thread are more knowledgable than me in this area.
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06-19-2006, 10:55 PM
-thanks for reading.
Sean 
06-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Hello JP
Welcome to the world of Roman illustration! Although it can never replace working from live models using photographs does help in getting proportions and perspective right. Re-enactors are usually always willing to help out either with advice or just to pose as models and reconstructed equipment can help with details such as texture and how it may hang. Remember however that most re-enactors are not soldiers and have not experienced the lifestyle or suffered the stresses and strains of ancient Romans. Soldiers look and act different from office workers and soldiers who have experienced combat will look different again. To help fill in these gaps you must study Roman pictorial sources but also the work of other military artists especially those who worked in the nineteenth century will provide some inspiration.Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.
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06-19-2006, 11:36 PM
I suspect that there are more combat veterans in Roman re-enacting than some people realize. :lol:
Of course, most are old and getting 'soft'. Starting to look like shopclerks, officer workers and teachers. 
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06-20-2006, 12:35 PM
I tend to use a few re-enactors as models and some of them have seen military sevice. The American artist Don Troiani uses re-enactors too for his Civil War scenes but as he says only those who are undernourished! For Roman soldier models today it would probably be best to look at labourers and farm workers in the Rome region, not so easy in North Wales but it might be better in Portugal where JP lives.
Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.
"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock. "..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
06-20-2006, 06:33 PM
Quote:For Roman soldier models today it would probably be best to look at labourers and farm workers in the Rome region, not so easy in North Wales but it might be better in Portugal where JP lives.Hello Many thanks to all for their comments; they will certanly be helpfull to me. Mr Sumner, I apprecite your comments on model use, specially the farm workers and labourers as models; sometimes there is the tendency to make the figures as attractive as possible and, am affraid that is not realistic. You are right! those were soldiers not catwalk models! Thanks again for ponting that; it sure will influence me when I start to draw another figure. I expect to continue to receive such helpful critics from everyone at this magnific meeting point. Thanks to all. Best regards JP Vieira
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06-20-2006, 06:37 PM
Quote:Hello JPHello Mr Sumner May thanks for your wellcome. For a starting artist as myself it is a great pleasure to get helpfull critics from such an wonderfull artist as yourself. I appreciate your help and hope to continue to get it in the future. Best regards JP Vieira
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06-20-2006, 06:50 PM
Hello JP
Thanks for your comments. If you are interested in Archaeological illustration as a career then you, or anyone else for that matter, might be interested in joining the Association of Archaeological Illustrators and Surveyors (AAI&S). Have a look at their website. Although based in the UK there are an increasing number of members from other countries including Portugal. Graham.
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