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Jim,
Have a look on ebay and search for 'canteen gourds' There's a lovely civil war example that i think would work extremely well for Roman too.
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I've carried the Saddlers Den waterskin up Scafel Pike (England's highest mountain), on a 10 mile march along Hadrian's Wall, on a 7 mile march around Flamborough Headland and (this Saturday) it will serve me well on a 14 mile march across the North Yorkshire Moors following a Roman road.
Its good.
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Many of our soldiers use the Saddler's Den waterskin. It served them all very well on our 70 mile march of Hadrian's Wall.
Chris will also repair them for you too if there's any leakage issues.
(He initially had a few teething troubles with the plastic liner becoming separated at the neck).
Great item, hold's quite a volume of water, but you do need two free hands to use it!
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Quote:Have a look on ebay and search for 'canteen gourds' There's a lovely civil war example that i think would work extremely well for Roman too.
Yippee!! ø¤º°*°º¤ø,¸,ø¤º°*°º¤ø,¸
Bought Now. Sorted. Done and dusted. Top banana. Cheers Peronis :wink:
Thanks to everyone else as well. It's good to see the Saddler's Den ones work so well also. And thanks for reading my obsessive nonsense (but I am still convinced).
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Quote:I've carried the Saddlers Den waterskin up Scafel Pike (England's highest mountain), on a 10 mile march along Hadrian's Wall, on a 7 mile march around Flamborough Headland and (this Saturday) it will serve me well on a 14 mile march across the North Yorkshire Moors following a Roman road.
Its good.
Mithras, is this it? [url:1esspd3p]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/lord_mithras/History1/w18.jpg[/url]
Very nice.
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Quote:Is this one made of pumkin? Ain't pumkins from America?
No, it's made from a gourd, which can come from the New World and the Old World.
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two leads for you:
i- Gourd seeds/fragments have been found at the Saalburg (D)
ii- I remember that Gansser Burkhardt made reference to leather wine flasks in his commentary on the leather finds from Vindonissa (CH), will be looking for that book this avo...
happy hunting!
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Quote:two leads for you:
i- Gourd seeds/fragments have been found at the Saalburg (D)
ii- I remember that Gansser Burkhardt made reference to leather wine flasks in his commentary on the leather finds from Vindonissa (CH), will be looking for that book this avo...
happy hunting!
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Thanks Tim. I have the gourd canteen above winging its way across the pond, as well as this which I picked up for $5:
But I'd love to find out more about the Vindonissa leather wine flask fragments.
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Quote:there have, however, been small ceramic bottles found in britain. who is to say that some soldier wouldnt have carried one of these in a net bag? (I admit, a leap of faith as well)
I've got a photograph of a circular ceramic flask like the ones in this thread at Dover Museum, presumably found locally.
[url:3dsz8evd]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/lord_mithras/flask.jpg[/url]
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Quote:TFLAVIUSAMBIORIX:ikrt1c5i Wrote:there have, however, been small ceramic bottles found in britain. who is to say that some soldier wouldnt have carried one of these in a net bag? (I admit, a leap of faith as well)
I've got a photograph of a circular ceramic flask like the ones in this thread at Dover Museum, presumably found locally.
[url:ikrt1c5i]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/lord_mithras/flask.jpg[/url]
Paul, do you roughly know what its dimensions are?
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Quote:Mithras:5cmc65mn Wrote:TFLAVIUSAMBIORIX:5cmc65mn Wrote:there have, however, been small ceramic bottles found in britain. who is to say that some soldier wouldnt have carried one of these in a net bag? (I admit, a leap of faith as well)
I've got a photograph of a circular ceramic flask like the ones in this thread at Dover Museum, presumably found locally.
[url:5cmc65mn]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/lord_mithras/flask.jpg[/url]
Paul, do you roughly know what its dimensions are?
Oh it was a good size, I'd say between 15 and 20cm in diameter. I have another picture: [url:5cmc65mn]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/lord_mithras/DSCF3030.jpg[/url]
[url:5cmc65mn]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/lord_mithras/DSCF3030.jpg[/url]
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Thanks for that Paul. Very interesting.
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Quote:Thanks for that Paul. Very interesting.
No problem, I've got stacks of photos ...
My problem with the clay flask, although I would love one, is weight. I do alot of authentic marching in the winter seasons (as I said, a big one coming up on Saturday) and the thought of carrying that pottery flask even without water fills me with dread. A couple of weeks ago I did a 7/8 mile walk in full armour, on Saturday it will be as a skirmisher/patrol, but with camping equipment and tent for one night. Weight is something we carefully assess, we discuss at length what we need, what we want, what we should and shouldn't take ... what can we do without. Weight can really make everything painful, even force you to drop out. So a waterskin (where you carry just the weight of the water) wins out to a clay canteen everytime. At least for us on a walk in armour.
Just my 'marching' perspective.
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