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Avete Omnes,
I seem to see a transition of the Imperial vine to more of a plain
stick for Later Romans. Is this documented somewhere? Also if I make
one would sanding it and coating with linseed oil be proper?
Salvete
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Dave,
That would be OK but don't forget the mushroom shaped head.
![[Image: president.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tribunus/president.jpg)
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The sticks carried by late centurions or their equivalents are shorter than mine (I've taken it form the Piazza Armerina mosaic, where at least one of the lower-ranking officers wears the shorter type, while a higher-ranking officer is standing leaning on the longer type) and can stem directly from the vitis.
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Here goes the high ranking officer (a praepositus/tribune?) from Piazza Armerina:
![[Image: Tribunus.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tribunus/Tribunus.jpg)
And, thanks to Robert :wink: , look at the tallest staff of all, worn by the emperor himself (The knob is spherical, though), Honorius:
![[Image: honorius.jpg]](http://www.fectio.org.uk/articles/honorius.jpg)
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Aitor,
Thanks for the info and the Images. I would guess a length of 5 feet would be good. Not sure if the one in the mosaic is a straight piece of wood or not.
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Quote:And, thanks to Robert :wink: , look at the tallest staff of all, worn by the emperor himself (The knob is spherical, though), Honorius
Did you notice the shield? 
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The long stafs were carried from the rank of tribune and upwards. A centurio carried a shorter staf. You can see depictions of centurio stafs on several early christian sarcophagi.
A book with very good photographs of some of those sarcophagi (depictions of both longer stafs and shorter centurio staf) is:
'Frühchristliche Sarkophage in Bild und Wort' by Theodor Klauser (1966)
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You're welcome, Owain!
Jeff is right, staffs carried by centurions/equivalents are much shorter than that. Look at this one:
![[Image: Staff.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tribunus/Staff.jpg)
Robert,
What do you want to remark about the shield? Convex? The inner rim? Of course it is a three-quarters view... :roll:
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Aitor,
In Klauser's book there is a picture of a soldier on a sarcophagus with a dished shield. You can clearly see that it is dished as the back of the shield is carved out.
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Jeff,
Thanks wink:
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