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Quote:Robert,
The Berkasovo helmet is dated around the 4th century. Seems a little late for a 6th century soldier. Did this style make it into the 6th century?
That's a good question. I've yet to encounter helmet studies that dare give a terminus to the use of ridge helmets in the Late Roman army. Mostly it's 'late 5th c.', but that's as good as one gets. The best argument I've heard so far is purely speculative, and says that ridge helmets went out of use when the fabricae of the Western Empire were lost. Well, in my book that means the ones in the East went on producing helmets.
At some point the ridge helmets were no longer produced, and spangenhelmets became the norm. But when that was is anybody's guess.
So, a Berkasovo helmet would still be a good choice over a Der el Medina helmet.
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Sounds reasonable to me..!
I've read that Byzantine cavalry started wearing the nomad type tunics and boots, is this correct..?
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Ok this might be a stupid novice question, but what is a ridge helm?
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Quote:Ok this might be a stupid novice question, but what is a ridge helm?
Basic late Roman, in most cases, cheap mass produced helmets, the skull being manufactured in two halves and secured by a central ridge thats riveted on, hence the term ridge helmet.
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Quote:Quote:Ok this might be a stupid novice question, but what is a ridge helm?
Basic late Roman, in most cases, cheap mass produced helmets, the skull being manufactured in two halves and secured by a central ridge thats riveted on, hence the term ridge helmet.
Hi Kuura,
Welcome to RAT!
Good answer, I can only add that such helmet might have more than just two parts - for example the Burgh and Deurne have four.
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In fact, six, Robert! :wink:
Three segments forming each 'half' of the bowl.
Beautiful drawings, Stephanos!  To which has been already said on them I must add that Sixth century images show very specific kinds of military footwear, other than those plain boots depicted on the drawings.
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Quote:Hi Kuura,
Welcome to RAT!
Good answer, I can only add that such helmet might have more than just two parts - for example the Burgh and Deurne have four.
Hi Robert :!:
True, but mines the cheapo version :lol:
Not as nice as my new Vendel 14 helmet. Sorry, slightly off topic i know, although the large cheek pieces do look very similar to late 3rd century heavy infantry helms leaving me to speculate that it could be earlier than 7th century.
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Quote:In fact, six, Robert! :wink:
Three segments forming each 'half' of the bowl.
Oh, I never count those as segments, but as plates to secure the parts of the bowl underneat. True 'segments' are of course seen in the Deir el Medineh helmet and the Spangenhelme.
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Tsk, tsk! 
Narrower or broader (Don't forget Deurne and Concesti) they are always a third component forming the 'half-bowl', alongside with the two segments... 8)
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Well don!...Finally more late roman Art
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I like what I see.
Maybe us Late Romans should comission art of ourselfs in kit. hmm.
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Quote:I like what I see.
Maybe us Late Romans should comission art of ourselfs in kit. hmm.
Well in this case contact Nikos in [email protected] and make him an offer.
I will pass also Roberst suggestions on footware to see if he can improve.
I still wait for him to scan Belissarios.
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Quote:Maybe us Late Romans should comission art of ourselfs in kit. hmm.
You mean like this in the shop?
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