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Thorsbjerg Sagum Card-woven Rims
#1
For the last years I had a sagum remade from the Thorsbjerg findings published by Schlabow ( K. Schlabow, Textilfunde der Eisenzeit in Norddeutschland. Göttinger Schriften zur Vor- und Frühgeschichte 15 (Neumünster 1976). )
However, the card-woven rims were missing, but lucky as I was, I found last year in Trier at "Brot und Spiele" someone who was willing to make me the rims without wanting a fortune for it. The two wide rims are made with 50 cards:

[Image: Thorsberg01a.jpg]

The two narrow rims with 24 cards each:

[Image: Thorsberg02a.jpg]

The rims are woven onto the fabric of the cloak.
[size=150:1t9m6qdr]If someone is interested in her work, please let me know, I'll establish contact.[/size]I'll post better pics, when I have the cloak.
Christian K.

No reconstruendum => No reconstruction.

Ut desint vires, tamen est laudanda voluntas.
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#2
I am very interested!
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#3
Me too!
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#4
Me three!
"In war as in loving, you must always keep shoving." George S. Patton, Jr.
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#5
Very good work!
I have made some of these edges, too. That is the reason why I know how much work it is. Somebody here at the frum own a cloak by Holger Ratsdorf ...... :wink:
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Sylvia Crumbach
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#6
Yes, you can see me wearing the one by Holger Ratsdorf in my picture to the left.

However, I am trying to get members of my Legio interested in sagums.

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"In war as in loving, you must always keep shoving." George S. Patton, Jr.
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#7
My husband have got 3 sagum for different Reenactment-periods. You see, that one man ist abel to keep my busy like a komplet legio Smile
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Sylvia Crumbach
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#8
Quote:However, I am trying to get members of my Legio interested in sagums.

Fold your sagum four times down the length, and you've got a very interesting and convincing cummerbund. The lighter the wool the better. And it has folds to put all sorts of items in. And you can take it off and wear it for extra warmth without carrying it around.

:wink:
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#9
The wearin o' the sagum is a serious subject here in east Texas, where, the locals talk of little else.

My sagum is very large, and, probably wouldn't function well as a cummerbund.

The first C. grave steles depict soldiers wearing sagums with much the same pleating effect as in their tunics. I have tried to achieve this, but with questionable results. I think more needs to be devoted on this topic.
"In war as in loving, you must always keep shoving." George S. Patton, Jr.
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#10
Mine's from LaWren's Nest and is fairly lightweight. Fold it lengthwise and wrap it around your waist, and it looks quite like Graham Sumner's RMC1 illustration of a diogmitoi (Plate G3). He does though depict that as the cloak from his shoulder wrapped around his waist, which that sagum also does quite well.
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#11
Note the figure on the lower right and the meticulous draping effect.

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"In war as in loving, you must always keep shoving." George S. Patton, Jr.
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#12
Is that Annaius Daverzus? He's getting pretty famous Smile Great example of draping, thanks John.
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#13
There must have been a technique to achieve that.

The sagum was an important garment. It was German in origin, but picked up by the Romans. They were very expensive to own, but, I am told a purely military garment.
"In war as in loving, you must always keep shoving." George S. Patton, Jr.
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#14
I don´t think that the sagum has a germanian orign.
We know such garments form the greek and the etrusker. I wrote an Artikel about "Rechteckmäntel", but only in german language, sorry.
May is possible to use an translation-program on internet.

www.folgari.de
chose "Fachartikel"
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Sylvia Crumbach
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#15
My source was Holger Ratsdorf. What his source was, I am not sure.
"In war as in loving, you must always keep shoving." George S. Patton, Jr.
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