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Greetings,
this was mentioned over on Durolitum, it is rather later than our period, being early 10th century to 12th over two period spans , but may be of interest to some in England...especially in the North.
I was rather surprised to see pictures of 'Hoplitai'!
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Arthes
Cristina
The Hoplite Association
[url:n2diviuq]http://www.hoplites.org[/url]
The enemy is less likely to get wind of an advance of cavalry, if the orders for march were passed from mouth to mouth rather than announced by voice of herald, or public notice. Xenophon
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You mean [url:bkv986gt]http://livinghistory.co.uk/homepages/palacecompany[/url]... 
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Quote:You mean livinghistory.co.uk/homepages/palacecompany/...
Yes......that's them... :oops: thanks...!
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The Hoplite Association
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Thank you Arthes & guys!
That is my people! 8) , I didn't know of a group of such period, what a honor!...
& my favorite periods is from Basil II to the End of Byzantium 
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60 years old and charging in full catafract armor!
Perfect example of an old man who feels young! Definetly!
Kind regards
I wish I could do that if I reach that age! :wink:
Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
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Ah Basil II!!!
60 years old and charging in full catafract armor!
Perfect example of an old man who feels young! Definetly!
Kind regards
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Oh, Look! There's a photo of ME there! http://livinghistory.co.uk/homepages/pa ... mparty.htm
(I'm the one in the crown - and that's my son (the Caesar) standing next to me.) Tim Dawson, the founder of Hetereia Palatiou, is the guy in the blue.
There's actually quite a lot of Byzantine re-enactment going on, particularly by the New Varangian Guard in Australia - specifically re-enacting the Varangian (Viking) mercenaries who served the Emperors from about 850AD to 1204, but with many members concentrating on things Byzantine, while others portray and study the allies and enemies of the Empire. See http://www.nvg.org.au/ - and http://web.missouri.edu/~tm104/Varangian.htm for a selection of stuff on what we do.
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Hello Egfroth
Welcome to RAT
As a Byzantine you should be wary of anyone standing behind you with a big sword!!
Actually I met Tim Dawson at the Norman Middlewich Festival last year. He also knows my friend Raffaele D'Amato, perhaps you are familiar with our work.
Interesting to note that you are based in Leeds which is within easy reach. Perhaps we can meet one day.
Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.
"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock.
"..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
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Oh, yes, I know both Tim and Raffaele. Tim go me into re-enactment way back in 1986 (so now you know who to blame) and I was part (well, half, really) of Rafaele's Honour Guard at his wedding in Roma (see below!)
BTW, it's Tim who's in Leeds. I'm in Australia. But I'll be in England as part of the Hastings re-enactment on October 14 this year - I get to play King Harold's brother Leofwine (a bit of a come-down from Emperor, I must say . . .). Maybe you'll be there and we can meet up?
Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, I'm a bit of a media slut. I can hear the words "photo opportunity" from a distance of 5 miles if the wind's in the right direction . . .
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i see........... but wearing THAT????
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M.VIB.M.
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Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!
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Of course! (Oh, did I mention - my area of interest is 11th century Byzantium - that's a "banded" lamellar klivanion, with helmet per the Skylitzes Chronicle of Madrid, and tunic and hose like everybody wore in the 11th century.)
So, what was it I was wearing that you didn't like?
PS: We looked MUCH cooler than the "centurions" in their gold painted leather "armour" who hang around the Forum area to pose for (paid) photos with the tourists.
And we even got a couple of tourists wanting to be photographed with us. Just as well they couldn't understand English. All the way from the Basilica of Constantine past the Forum and to the church, we were singing obscene Australian marching songs . . .
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Erm.. Egfroth.. your real name and your signature, remember? It's a rule on the forum, as I reminded you of earlier?
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Well egfroth....... Yuck..... cant eat that............. hahahaha
I didnt like your armour scale painted vest, and your helmet looks a bit silly....
but your tunic, shoes and legging seem to be correct for the early medieval era.........
and about your remark of the so called Roman impostors at the AMPHITHEATRvM FLAVIvM.........
They should be publicly crucified, and torched during a banquet in Rome's honor....... we do like our party lighting, you see.
M.VIB.M.
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Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!
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Um, those are steel lamellar scales - not painted. And the helmet may not be what you're used to, but the Romans of the 12th century seemed to like them a lot - see http://users.bigpond.net.au/quarfwa/mik ... itzes1.htm (warning - large file).
But I agree with you about the impostors.
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looks to me like a mail skirt on the back of the helmet... and i must say the soldiers look rather moorish to me......
however i think the helmets of the moorish soldiers and also the helmets from the saladdin era were quite like the ones depicted on your image...
M.VIB.M.
Bushido wa watashi no shuukyou de gozaru.
Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!
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