05-22-2006, 05:43 PM
First I agree with Dan, that troops in the images look rather innacurate.
We respectfully dissagree on the chariot charge and I only hope that I will have the chance to test my theory if the chariot shows at Watford.
Till then I cannot press the argument.
Cristina,Helen could not be a warrior princes. Bronze Age Spartan women are not recorded having the liberties of the Classical Era Spartan women.
But I stand on the possibility of warrior princesses in the northern Greek tribes of the time. The cult of Artemis Aetolia showing the hunting godess almost resembling Athena, survived into the Hellenistic times. There is also the legend of Atalandi of Fthia. That makes plausible the existance of "warrior pristesses" but nowhere like the warrior women of the Sauromatae Sarmatians or the Amazons.
An interesting point on Helen's name in Greek ELLENI:
SELLENI or HELLENI = the one who is bright like the Moon from SELLAS= light or SELLINI= the Moon
But the root of the word could possibly come from the verb
HELLEO = gather the army for war; therefor HELLENI: the one that for her armies are gathered.
HELLANA = the forse of the charge , shock of impact when the phallanx crashes on the Enemy. Today it survives in the French language under the word ELAN.
So HELLENE is the one who stirs passions.
Browsing the net I found a blog arguing that Helen was a scheming ruthless woman who could not stomach the fact that was married to a lesser king (Menealos) and left for Troy with her husband's knowledge to stir a war that would bring Agamenon and Mycenae down and raise the prestige of Sparta. Is seemd to work for them although not exactly as they had planned.
Although the author might have some points because the LA roote exist in every Indo-European language denoting light and brightness.
Kind regards
We respectfully dissagree on the chariot charge and I only hope that I will have the chance to test my theory if the chariot shows at Watford.
Till then I cannot press the argument.
Cristina,Helen could not be a warrior princes. Bronze Age Spartan women are not recorded having the liberties of the Classical Era Spartan women.
But I stand on the possibility of warrior princesses in the northern Greek tribes of the time. The cult of Artemis Aetolia showing the hunting godess almost resembling Athena, survived into the Hellenistic times. There is also the legend of Atalandi of Fthia. That makes plausible the existance of "warrior pristesses" but nowhere like the warrior women of the Sauromatae Sarmatians or the Amazons.
An interesting point on Helen's name in Greek ELLENI:
SELLENI or HELLENI = the one who is bright like the Moon from SELLAS= light or SELLINI= the Moon
But the root of the word could possibly come from the verb
HELLEO = gather the army for war; therefor HELLENI: the one that for her armies are gathered.
HELLANA = the forse of the charge , shock of impact when the phallanx crashes on the Enemy. Today it survives in the French language under the word ELAN.
So HELLENE is the one who stirs passions.
Browsing the net I found a blog arguing that Helen was a scheming ruthless woman who could not stomach the fact that was married to a lesser king (Menealos) and left for Troy with her husband's knowledge to stir a war that would bring Agamenon and Mycenae down and raise the prestige of Sparta. Is seemd to work for them although not exactly as they had planned.
Although the author might have some points because the LA roote exist in every Indo-European language denoting light and brightness.
Kind regards
HOPLITE14GR (aka Stefanos)
Phokean Ekdromos
http://hetairoi.de/
http://hoplomachia.gr
http://stefanosskarmintzos.wordpress.com
Phokean Ekdromos
http://hetairoi.de/
http://hoplomachia.gr
http://stefanosskarmintzos.wordpress.com