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Eagle Standards/Aquilifer.
#1
Greetings. I am new here and I would like to convey my happiness at finding such a unique and exceptional forum. In consequence, I ask any of you if you could help me with something. For purposes of love-of-history as well as re-enactment, where ay I be able to find the Eagle Standards and the Standard poles used by the Legions in and around the time of Scipio Africanus as well as Gaius Julius Caesar? Also do any of you know here i can find teh outfit for the "Aquilifer" ? Much help is needed and I thoroughly thank you! Big Grin oops: :oops:
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#2
Welcome on board. Hope you'll have a nice time here and enjoy re-enactment/interest in the Roman times.
Don't forget to put your real (first) name in your signature, as that's a forum rule. It's nice to know who you're talking to.

First, as you're question is about a little bit earlier times then the flavian Aquilifers I'm gonna discuss below, you should take into account that in earlier times the Roman army also seemed to have other standards. Maybe even every legion had it's own animal.

(Pictures are kindly taken from the web and are made by Mark Sanders, Robert Vermaat or me Big Grin )

Here the wonderfull Aquila made by Paul Karremans (Leg X GEM, Netherlands)
[Image: PICT0041.JPG]

More info: link from old RAT

On the archeological sources for aquila's
link from old RAT

The aquila I made 2 years ago
link from old RAT

Paul Karremans in his awesome kit:
[Image: DSC_0414.JPG]

Gerard Schotgerrits (Leg II AVG, England)
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Jvrjenivs Peregrinvs Magnvs / FEBRVARIVS
A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
ALA I BATAVORUM
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#3
It is bloody difficult to obtain wolf, even harder for bear, but how in the name of Zeus's butthole did he score lion????

In Canada, you cannot buy bear, in order to own it, you have to have a license and dispatch it yourself. As for wolf, after the massive, and very questionable wolf culling in the Yukon a few years back, there are severe restrictions on them as well.

Surely there is a reasonable faux animal provider out there somewhere?

The Eagles themselves are fairly hard to come by... you might want to try places that sell flagpole topper accessories.

For the armour, start at any of the vendors here, Soul of the Warrior, Imperium etc.
Q. ARTORIVS CORVINVS
aka: Phillip Vautour
"Rome is but a wilderness of tigers, and tigers must prey."
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#4
Quote:It is bloody difficult to obtain wolf, even harder for bear, but how in the name of Zeus's butthole did he score lion????

Ask a ZOO and just wait till one die and hope they'll sell the hide to you. In the mean time you can save some money to finance the project. That's at least the I heard they've got theirs.
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Jvrjenivs Peregrinvs Magnvs / FEBRVARIVS
A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
ALA I BATAVORUM
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#5
I understand that David Richardson of Leg II AVG (UK) has another lion pelt for sale too at the moment!
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#6
A weird thought popped into mind... I wonder if they (Aqualifers/Signifers) ever catch heat from animal rights activists?
Not sure how prevalent they are in the UK, but in North America, yikes :roll:

Honestly, If I shelled out the amount of quid I can only imagine it would cost, let alone the scarcity factor, and someone threw paint all over it... I think I would call an Ad Aciem, and re-enact the battle of Boudicca :!:
Q. ARTORIVS CORVINVS
aka: Phillip Vautour
"Rome is but a wilderness of tigers, and tigers must prey."
<a class="postlink" href="http://rubicon.dyndns.org/legioxxi">http://rubicon.dyndns.org/legioxxi
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#7
Considering that wolves and cougers as well as bears, are now being spotted across the prairies, there must be some relaxation on the dispatching of the occassional animal?
Even the coyoties are coming into towns and making off with dogs and cats.
I wonder how long before a baby is taken?
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
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#8
Thanks for such a great reply. By the way my name is Nick. I live in the United States and have found myself deeply interested in the Roman Republic, but also the empire too. Ever since my Grand father came back from a dig in Baath with a bronze Roman ring for me. Anyway, I shall look into ths ites offered and i would thoroughly enjoy looking into this sort of re-enactment. For some reason the spirit of Rome calls me, and while Rome cannot be revived, in can be found in both heart through the virtues of old as well as in interest in history. Upon my searches I found that the Eagle standards were revived by Napolean, and yet none just as those from Rome, do not survive. Also, the pelts are rather extraordinary! Wow. I cannot wait to see mor eof this and I expect to log on more frequently!
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#9
jvrjenivs\\n[quote]
(Pictures are kindly taken from the web and are made by Mark Sanders, Robert Vermaat or me Big Grin )

Here the wonderfull Aquila made by Paul Karremans (Leg X GEM, Netherlands)
[Image: PICT0041.JPG]


Paul Karremans in his awesome kit:
[Image: DSC_0414.JPG]

That eagle is awesome, definately one to die for!!
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
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#10
Quote:Thanks for such a great reply. By the way my name is Nick.

Hi Nick. Please enter your real (first) name in your signature, it's in your profile. Forum rules.
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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#11
In the USA Bear and Wolf pelts may be easily obtained:

Bear:
[url:1zibt1h5]http://www.hideandfur.com/inventory/6105.html[/url]

wolf:
[url:1zibt1h5]http://www.hideandfur.com/inventory/7481.html[/url]
By the way, the wolves appear to all come from Canada (saved for export?)

Quote:A weird thought popped into mind... I wonder if they (Aqualifers/Signifers) ever catch heat from animal rights activists?
I've encountered no problems (yet) from animal rights people when appearing in public wearing my bear pelt. Here I am as a cornecen at the recent Reenactor Fest that was held in Wheeling, IL:
[url:1zibt1h5]http://flickr.com/photos/yark64/3266059858/[/url]
Titus Licinius Neuraleanus
aka Lee Holeva
Conscribe te militem in legionibus, vide mundum, inveni terras externas, cognosce miros peregrinos, eviscera eos.
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