Nero\'s Golden House Closed To Public - Damaged From Rain

[Theodosius the Great]

[url:3k67aak5]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4522008.stm[/url]

Geez, what's wrong with them ? Can't they just throw a canvas up over it ? :roll:

[Arthes]

Greetings,
I was reading elsewhere that Rome is endangered by heavy rains that are undermining the foundations, because of all the catacombs and sewerage tunnels.
It seems a wall collapsed somewhere, medieval I think it was, and this had resulted in worries that many of the ancient structures could be damaged or even dangerous.
That's probably what they are worried about.
Here is the article......[url:2ge6cr0w]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/20/wrome20.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/20/ixworld.html[/url]
regards
Arthes

[Jeroen Pelgrom]

i hope that they can do something about it!

[Praefectusclassis]

Italy's problem: too many ancient remains, too little money too take good care of all of them... (and, just to make it plain, it would require HUGE amounts of money).

[Ebusitanus]

Events like this only highlight the fact that this progresive destruction has been taken place countiuosly in the last 2000 years. You can not sadly cover everything from acts of God.

[Robert Vermaat]

years. You can not sadly cover everything from acts of God.

True, but a higher budget would have been more prudent in this case. Italy seems to forget that they make much much more money from the tourists who to gape at these ruins.. Protecting them (the ruins, that is ) with a fraction of that money would secure that income!!!

[Theodosius the Great]

Robert is 100% correct, of course

If it were my country I'd go even further and do complete restorations (not like the phony "restoration" of the Parthenon in Greece :roll: ).

I don't know why that idea is so taboo.

[Robert Vermaat]

I don't know why that idea is so taboo.

In Israel, they add a metre or so to each ruin to protect as well as 'visibly enhance' it, but they add a black line to show the original height. They also do that in Switserland, but without any visible signs.

I also know of hillforts in Wales were the walls were partly reconstructed for the same reason, but each added rock received a little round hole to show it was newly added.
lol:

I think in Israel they got the right ideas about ruin preservation. Although.. In Caesarea, they 'rebuilt' the amphitheatre (as did the Swiss in Augusta Raurica/Augst!) to use it for theatrical shows and rock concerts! hock:

[Theodosius the Great]

Sure, even the Italians did a partial restoration of the Colosseum but the restored outer arches are a different color to distinguish old from new.

Why preserve when you can restore ? I can only conclude that they're just being miserly :evil:

That's great that the Israelies restored their amphitheatre. I don't like modern performences being conducted in them, but at least they're maintaining it.

BTW, Robert, I like you're Intercissa award 8) Is that a new graphic ?

[Robert Vermaat]

I guess the discussion is also about use. is a ruin a relic from the past, or can you or must you reconstruct it and use it for the same (albeit modern) purposes?

Theo, you'd love the Late Roman Basilica in Trier!


Yes, the Silver intercisa is a new award for Late Roman expertise. Aitor and me just received it this afternoon!

[Theodosius the Great]

Theo, you'd love the Late Roman Basilica in Trier!

Oh yeah, seen it on TV many times from the inside but never from the outside. Thanks I think it was briefly converted into a church ?

Yes, the Silver intercisa is a new award for Late Roman expertise. Aitor and me just received it this afternoon!

Congratulations :!: wink:

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

About reconstructions, at Catalonia we have reconstructed a whole iberian city:



[url:2szla36t]http://www.ibercalafell.org/llista_articles.aspx?idsecc=lHvKgsox9GE=[/url]

First it was archaeologically digged and then "remake" with experimental technics, reproducing original ones.

But recontructing big unic monuments like Domus Aurea is very different. And dangerous...

[Theodosius the Great]

That's impressive, Lucius . Is it a city or more like a town ?

recontructing big unic monuments like Domus Aurea is very different. And dangerous...

Well, that's one of Rome's more obscure buildings anyway. I just want things like the Colosseum made whole again or even the temple to Jupiter in the forum.

I guess the discussion is also about use. is a ruin a relic from the past, or can you or must you reconstruct it and use it for the same (albeit modern) purposes?

If you use them for reenacting Greek and Roman plays I think that'd be nice roll: :evil: .

[Praefectusclassis]

Well, that's one of Rome's more obscure buildings anyway

It is the one though with the Hector on a high wall that was interpreted by Graham Sumner as a possible Praetorian kit... Just to put it in perspective :wink:

[Theodosius the Great]

It is indeed, Jasper. This is the first time I've seen it in color hock: