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Greetings,
I came across this article about the only Roman water organ in existance...
http://www.museum.hu/search/permanent_e ... 2004&ID=86
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Arthes
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looks great, curious how it sounded!
gr,
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Avete,
I saw something about this on a show called
"What the Romans did for Us" on the
History channel. The narrator showed how
it worked and even had a mock-up of a
piston tube that provided the notes.
Nice of you,Arthes,to find this.
Andy Booker
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As andy says a replica was made and presented by Adam Hart - Davis on the aforesaid TV programme.Its sounded great.it was part if the series dedicated to Automata.Both seen on Sky and the BBC.
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There is a reproduction of the water organ in a museum in Mainz somewhere I saw a few years back.
Hello from the new girl, by the way. :wink:
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It's in the Römisch-Germanisches Zentralmuseum, Mainz, and last time I was there it was played daily for guided tours (missed it both times).
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A kind of organ is show in a mosaic that depicts a gladiatorial combat. The Aquincum's organ is supposed to play music during special ceremonies like the imperial cult.
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Greetings,
and a warm welcome to RAT, Lucia......
I had never heard about this before and it sounds like watching a Gladiatorial combat may have been like watching a not so silent movie....with accompanying organ music!!!
Or were the gladiators the forerunners of WWF wrestlers...entering the arena to their own theme tune...... :roll:
You can imagine this scenario.....
'Who's on next , Lucius?'
'my programme is in that dog's jaws and I am not going to try and retrieve it'
'ah', 'don't worry, I know that tune - it's Atticus'.....'raaaaaaaah'!!!!
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Cristina
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I find it rather amusing.
Playing the ancient equivalent of the March of the Gladiators or Entry of the Gladiators......then they stand up to take a bow...
'for my next performance, accompanying me with the Gladius, the one and only Spartacus...'
It really does give an insight into how intricate early music must have been.....what do these organs sound like, has anybody heard one played...?
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Cristina
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Posted by Iosephus in another thread:
Quote:1931 archeologists excavated the remains of a hydraulis (organ) in Budapest/Aquincum.
Several reconstructions were made and the debate whether it was "powered" by air or water is still continuing.
The hydraulis originates from 228 AD. The date is exact, because there were a bronze plate attached to the front side of the organ whith the following text:
G(aius) Jul(ius) Viatorinus dec(urio) col(oniae) Aq(uinci) aedilicius praef(ectus) coll(egii) cent(onariorum) hydram coll(egio) s(upra) s(cripto) de suo d(onum) d(edit) Modesto et Probo co(n)s(ulibus).
Here are some pics of the original finds and one of the reconstructions:
http://www.aquincum.hu/orgona/orgona.htm
and whats more interesting, here is a sound sample of it:
http://www.aquincum.hu/orgona/orgonahang.mp3
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... =hydraulis
There has been in the meantime excavated the remains of another water organ, this time at Dion (Greece), from the 1st century BC.
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I find this topic particularly interesting as it shows yet another Classical invention that had to be re-discovered in the west after the fall.. In doing some quick searches on the web I saw the water organ's image pictured on mosaics , coinage , etc , apparently its usage was widespread throughout the empire and even concerts were given ...
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