11-28-2005, 12:34 AM
Travis,
Did you read my entire post, or just the first line?
On the subject of shorter tunics, Graham Sumner showed evidence of tunics which had been of the normal length but had been shortened by their owners by making tucks around the waist, suggesting that short tunics were not available to these people. It is also worth remembering that some Greek garments were short. Both the chiton and the exomis could be short and it is not impossible that some slaves were dressed in Greek style clothing.
Regarding the garments you cite with 'pleats' running from the shoulder. They could be pleats but then again I would expect an unbelted tunic to show a rippled ('pleated' if you like) effect up as far as the shoulder when the arms were lowered. If the effect on the statues you cite is more regular than could be expected from the natural folding of he material I have two questions: are any of these statues of women and if so could the 'pleats' actually be the effect produced by the buttons / knots in the 'gap sleeved' style of women's garment? Can you post up any pictures?
Also, have you experimented with reconstructed tunics yourself? If so, did you try several different possibilities and what were your results?
Crispvs
Did you read my entire post, or just the first line?
On the subject of shorter tunics, Graham Sumner showed evidence of tunics which had been of the normal length but had been shortened by their owners by making tucks around the waist, suggesting that short tunics were not available to these people. It is also worth remembering that some Greek garments were short. Both the chiton and the exomis could be short and it is not impossible that some slaves were dressed in Greek style clothing.
Regarding the garments you cite with 'pleats' running from the shoulder. They could be pleats but then again I would expect an unbelted tunic to show a rippled ('pleated' if you like) effect up as far as the shoulder when the arms were lowered. If the effect on the statues you cite is more regular than could be expected from the natural folding of he material I have two questions: are any of these statues of women and if so could the 'pleats' actually be the effect produced by the buttons / knots in the 'gap sleeved' style of women's garment? Can you post up any pictures?
Also, have you experimented with reconstructed tunics yourself? If so, did you try several different possibilities and what were your results?
Crispvs
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