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To take on Rome
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[size=150:2jkweafl]I[/size] ask "What would it take to get Rome's Enemies organized enough to fight?" How can we help to get people outfitted and ready to go? Dave Kufner and I talked about a website that would help to quickly outfit the new "Enemy of Rome" reenactor. I'm willing to donate webspace on reenactor.Net for this.

Needlefelt (NFS) [size=75:2jkweafl][url:2jkweafl]http://www.reenactor.net/Ancient/nfs/index.htm[/url][/size] will really help this work and like Dan P. says, there is a big group of people who are already into LARP who might be converted... your thoughts?
DMV
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#2
Sure, but is there enough good quality non-Roman stuff around to equip them? I mean, in Europe we sure have enough, but where you live..
Robert Vermaat
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THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
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#3
Quote:Sure, but is there enough good quality non-Roman stuff around to equip them? I mean, in Europe we sure have enough, but where you live..
[size=150:215x4xvw]B[/size]uild it and they will come! 'Tis the only way! Have to show them HOW to get outfitted and how to do so w/ out breaking the bank!! That's the start!
DMV
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Legio IX Hispana www.legioix.org

Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt

"A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself." ~Mark Twain

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#4
Well, I have books full of pictures with Frankish dres, etc...
Robert Vermaat
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#5
Well since I have some barbarian stuff alread (cloak, pair of trousers in the works) I'd be willing to play a barbarian at these events if there were not enough already there.

I have stated before and will say again, I wouldn't look to LARPers as a recruiting base, or the main one at any rate. I think going for reenactors in other periods would be a better idea. I've talked to some fellow WWI and II reenactors and there is interest, I think with some work we could get them over.
Tiberius Claudius Vindex
Coh I Nerv
aka Chris Goshey

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#6
Quote:I have stated before and will say again, I wouldn't look to LARPers as a recruiting base, or the main one at any rate. I think going for reenactors in other periods would be a better idea. I've talked to some fellow WWI and II reenactors and there is interest, I think with some work we could get them over.
[size=150:ghmy02q5]P[/size]erhaps, but many of them just aren't gonna want to do this kind of thing. It doesn't go "bang." As someone who does WWI and WWII, I need explain that it is tactics and weapons for many of my fellows.

Anyway, I would thing we could use the Brigantia website as a good starting place, they have 2 pages on "how to" make cloting & kit and another on how to make weapons.

Clothing & Kit [url:ghmy02q5]http://www.ironage.demon.co.uk/brigantia/kit_clothing.htm[/url]
Weapons [url:ghmy02q5]http://www.ironage.demon.co.uk/brigantia/kit_weapons.htm[/url]

At least, we could point people there until we get something else going...
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Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt

"A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself." ~Mark Twain

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#7
I know most 20th century reenactors would not be interested, I think we might be two of a handful ourselves.

It might be a good idea to try to recruit from colleges, if you can convince the professors to let us on. I know however that many college professors look down on us reenactors so I'm not sure how amiable they would be to our presence, especially armed to the teeth. The thing is, I believe a fair number of students, especially the history majors, might be willing to try it out. Add to the fact that a barbarian impression is attainable even for a cash strapped college student and you've got a fair sized recruiting pool.

I might be willing to try recruiting LARPers on a small scale, though I've dealt with them before and most of them are more interested in fantisy than history and would be likely turned off by high authenticity standards.
Tiberius Claudius Vindex
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#8
Quote:I might be willing to try recruiting LARPers on a small scale, though I've dealt with them before and most of them are more interested in fantisy than history and would be likely turned off by high authenticity standards.
[size=150:kza2mqpz]M[/size]ethinks the way to do it w/ the LARP crowd is to A: make it clear up front that this is not fantasy, and B: make it something they won't want to miss... I feel the NFS will go a long way in helping this. Full speed blows and no scripted action. Granted, there won't be orcs, fairies or demons, but WTF, it WILL have good action and be fun.

If you can keep the "puffy people" ([size=75:kza2mqpz]what I call the know-it-alls[/size]) out and make it fun ([size=75:kza2mqpz]like a hobby should be[/size])... Some goobers feel that if you have fun, you lose accuracy, that's horse pucky! You can have both, but if you let down the guard on authenticity though, you'll never get it back up. Just make it worthwhile to come and attend events. Maybe have neato swag or something. It ain't like you need to charge lotsa $-£-€, it isn't all for the public. You might find that events where you're not "edjucatin' the publick" can be very rewarding! And maybe, just maybe, you'll get that "magic moment" where you're there -- if even for just a few seconds...
Best, DMV
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Legio IX Hispana www.legioix.org

Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt

"A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself." ~Mark Twain

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#9
While at this year's Lafe event, the Celts nearly took the south gate. If there had been a few more we could have penetrated their defenses and pillaged till we got tired.

There is a barbarian yahoo group that is gathering the tribal leaders from all backgrounds, Celts, Germans, Huns etc. Two leaders per group.
The idea behind this is so we can coordinate with each other for both local and National events. As well as vote on important tribal issues.

[url:22far3ht]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kelticos/[/url]

SCAers may be more interested in what we are doing than Larpers but you never know where a good recruit will come from.

Dave
Valete,
Owain/Cicero
a.k.a. Dave Kufner

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#10
Quote:SCAers may be more interested in what we are doing than Larpers but you never know where a good recruit will come from.
[size=150:193fwz2b]W[/size]ell, if we can get a really good website going and make it easy for them to get outfitted. That's half the battle, more actually. WWII Eastern Front reenacting used to be the bastard stepchild of WWII, until ONE guy, Danny Welch appeared. Dan would go around to events, selling good stuff cheap and allowing a whole new group of people to get involve dint he hobby. That's what it will take, making it simple for the masses...

Of course, once this happens, we best get some more Romans ;-Þ
Best, DMV
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a.k.a.: Marsh Wise
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Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt

"A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself." ~Mark Twain

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#11
Hey Marsh, I'm probably gonna have a quiet period in a couple of months, so if you need help with any graphics for the website let me know. Never done web graphics before, but done plenty of early game graphics - the principal's the same.

Got the full kit and kaboodle (3D and 2D), and been at it for around 20 years, now doing matte painting for film. And, yes, I can draw :wink:

Cheers.
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#12
Quote:Hey Marsh, I'm probably gonna have a quiet period in a couple of months, so if you need help with any graphics for the website let me know. Never done web graphics before, but done plenty of early game graphics - the principal's the same.

Got the full kit and kaboodle (3D and 2D), and been at it for around 20 years, now doing matte painting for film. And, yes, I can draw :wink:

Cheers.
[size=150:3kwrd0pn]T[/size]hat would be great!!!! I sorta guessed you *might* have some skills inthat area ;-) )
Best, DMV
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Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt

"A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself." ~Mark Twain

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#13
Nice one mate. Just let me know when you have an idea of initial layout, etc.

Cheers.
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#14
I´m not sure what you wanted to achieve, but let me tell you that there are a number of good groups displaying mostly Late La Téne celts (like Brigantia) in Europe. There are a few good groups displaying germanic warriors of the 1st ct AD. But in most cases any kind of showfight is not pssible at the moment, because our fellow roman groups are not very fond of that.
Last month we were at the biannual International Roman days at Kalkriese in Germany. We were able to display a rehearsed combat with a roman group, who had no problems using look-alike-pila and iaculi, spears with leather points and wooden gladii/spatha.
The show was planned for 30min with four scenes and we were able to tell ca. 5000 people how warefare between romans and germanics might have looked like.
I hope that we can show some pics in the future on our homepage.

ghandi
www.chasuari.de
Robert Brosch
www.chasuari.de">www.chasuari.de
Germanic warriors of 1st ct. AD

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#15
We're already there:

[url:225lh1yb]http://www.vicus.org.uk[/url]

The secret would be to handle both the british and roman aspects within the same group.

Invariably, trying to get a number of different groups to work to something novel (for them) is too hard. Many groups bear grudges towards other groups, don't want to be "led" by another or are simply too different to work together easily.

That said, there are good relationships between specific groups that can be built upon over a period of time.

Personally, I'd love to see a full century + auxillia dealing with a similar number of britons, but I fear it will not happen in my lifetime ..........
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[size=150:1nectqej]John Nash[/size]
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Romans and Britons wot fight ........
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