08-07-2006, 10:54 AM
Without as Theodosius says 'having a dog in the fight' this is my viewpoint on this matter....which I have seen real nastiness over.
A lot of the arguments I see, and am mainly referring to are due to both Greeks and Macedonians claiming Alexander and the Argaed Star/Sun as 'theirs'.
The borders of Macedonia that should govern this argument is....ALEXANDER'S MACEDONIA - whatever the peoples who live within those borders, they were and still are considered Macedonians - the Argaed Star/Sun should be allowed to represent the country it originally stood for....Macedonia.
We have a hell of a lot of immigrants in England, who have been here as long as the Slavs and others in Macedonia....who call themselves English or British....what if we suddenly said - 'hey you Saxons, you are nothing to do with us and how dare you fly the Union Jack' or they said to us who look to be descended of Romano British blood 'How dare you call our Saxon kings yours' You can see what I mean :wink: :wink:
How many Macedonians are of mixed Greek, Slavonic and MACEDONIAN ancestry and some of them will be descended from the original Macedonians and Alexander's soldiers, who fought for Macedonia......and what is being forgotten here....is the fact these peoples are proud of Alexander - what is wrong with that, bearing in mind some Greeks at the time would have happily killed him...and some of the modern Greeks are descended from those too - well, the ones that survived that is.... :wink:
You cannot change history, ancient borders or Alexander being Macedonian to suit whims...Philip wanted him to have a Greek education as he considered the Greeks to be cultured compared with the Macedonians - sometimes I wonder who are the cultured ones, when I see some of the unnecessary hatred and death threats hock:
Regards
Arthes
A lot of the arguments I see, and am mainly referring to are due to both Greeks and Macedonians claiming Alexander and the Argaed Star/Sun as 'theirs'.
The borders of Macedonia that should govern this argument is....ALEXANDER'S MACEDONIA - whatever the peoples who live within those borders, they were and still are considered Macedonians - the Argaed Star/Sun should be allowed to represent the country it originally stood for....Macedonia.
We have a hell of a lot of immigrants in England, who have been here as long as the Slavs and others in Macedonia....who call themselves English or British....what if we suddenly said - 'hey you Saxons, you are nothing to do with us and how dare you fly the Union Jack' or they said to us who look to be descended of Romano British blood 'How dare you call our Saxon kings yours' You can see what I mean :wink: :wink:
How many Macedonians are of mixed Greek, Slavonic and MACEDONIAN ancestry and some of them will be descended from the original Macedonians and Alexander's soldiers, who fought for Macedonia......and what is being forgotten here....is the fact these peoples are proud of Alexander - what is wrong with that, bearing in mind some Greeks at the time would have happily killed him...and some of the modern Greeks are descended from those too - well, the ones that survived that is.... :wink:
You cannot change history, ancient borders or Alexander being Macedonian to suit whims...Philip wanted him to have a Greek education as he considered the Greeks to be cultured compared with the Macedonians - sometimes I wonder who are the cultured ones, when I see some of the unnecessary hatred and death threats hock:
Regards
Arthes
Cristina
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The enemy is less likely to get wind of an advance of cavalry, if the orders for march were passed from mouth to mouth rather than announced by voice of herald, or public notice. Xenophon
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The Hoplite Association
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The enemy is less likely to get wind of an advance of cavalry, if the orders for march were passed from mouth to mouth rather than announced by voice of herald, or public notice. Xenophon
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