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Tablet Weaving
#1
Can anyone tell me what is the best size wool to use with these tablets please? <p><br>
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#2
Good question, and while we're at it, can anyone confirm tablets were made out of wood, clay, horn or leather, depending on how rich a person was.<br>
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All I found where weblinks, but no real reference material.<br>
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Vesty <p><img src="http://home.wanadoo.nl/p.c.peters/images/trowel.gif" width="73" height="73" align="right">
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#3
I guess I missed something here. Was there a previous discussion of cloth tablets? I thought the tablets were for writing on, and were made of wood or wood/wax--and even pottery shards and papyrus in other parts of the empire. But, up to now, I have never heard of ones made of cloth. Or is the word "tablets" being used for something else? Sorry for my ignorance.<br>
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Arturius Britannicus
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#4
Salve Vestilia!<br>
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Glad to see you in RCT! Feel free to jump in.<br>
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I have about 12 wax tablets (from ForumTraiani in Germany), but no cloth on them. One is a 'contract' type, with a place for a red wax seal. I don't see any cloth or where that might go.<br>
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I know there were wax, wooden tablets ala Vindolanda, sheepskin, papyrus, and I suppose folks scribbled in clay, but unless you're using silk I don't think ink wants to work well on wool or linen.<br>
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Richard<br>
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Richard Campbell
Legio XX - Alexandria, Virginia
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#5
Tablet weaving is a seperate thing from writing tablets!<br>
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[url=http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/tweavebib.html" target="top]www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/tweavebib.html[/url]<br>
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#6
Wow all--<br>
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This auxiliary infantryman is always amazed at how little he knows. Thanks Caius Fabius for showing us that "tablets" are not always for writing on!! Hope it does not turn out that the sponge on a stick I carry with me is used really for something else--like tooth cleaning!!!! But nobody has still told the original chap what sort of wool to use!!!<br>
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Arturius <p></p><i></i>
Arturius Britannicus
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hi vesty tis good to see you here<br>
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Ive seen examples of bone tablets at the National Museum of Scotland.<br>
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Ill try and get some photos posted on here later today<br>
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Must admit i havent heard of leather ones <p><br>
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#8
Veni, I think the drawings you made of the tablets are still online on our webspace.<br>
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Is it of any use if I posted them here, so everybody can see what we mean?<br>
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#9
Please do Vestilia. I'd like to see them; are they used as belts? Trim? <p></p><i></i>
Richard Campbell
Legio XX - Alexandria, Virginia
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#10
here are some of the drawings of the various shapes<br>
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<img src="http://home.wanadoo.nl/p.c.peters/images/tablet1.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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<img src="http://home.wanadoo.nl/p.c.peters/images/tablet2.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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<img src="http://home.wanadoo.nl/p.c.peters/images/tablet3.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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<img src="http://home.wanadoo.nl/p.c.peters/images/tablet4.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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<img src="http://home.wanadoo.nl/p.c.peters/images/tablet5.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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these particular ones are at the Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh<br>
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rich they were used for belts , borders and even weaved into the edges of materials for decoration<br>
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#11
Venicone,<br>
Do you know please what kind of designs the romans created with these tablet thingys?<br>
Was this form of decoration very popular on clothes and used by both sexes?<br>
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Jackie. <p></p><i></i>
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#12
On the thickness of the wool, it would depend on how many tablets you want to use & what you want to use the braid for afterwards. I have used doubleknit with 6-10 cards for belts, which can give quite nice colour mixes and very basic geometric patterns, letters or shapes. I have seen one example on a website by one of the SCA people though (was he dedicated or just a nutter?) who made a badge with a very complicated design using 80 cards. Obviously this must have been done using a very fine cotton or linen thread, and I think he must have used a frame. It would be too unweildy to just loop onto a bit of the tent and knock it up in an afternoon while being twittered at by looneys in the crowd. I have also done a few pieces in thick cotton thread but I found that it tangles up very easily, even before you get them all threaded. Then, if you're hooked onto the wall to do it, you dare not go to the loo or have a coffee in case it all tangles up again. Its a right ******!<br>
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I dont know of any archaeological evidence for frames though, but possibly the evidence of complicated designs, using more than just 6-8 cards, implies that frames were used because of the practicalities. Anyone know of any providence for frames?<br>
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Claudia<br>
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#13
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I just like to add that the most ubicuitous use of tablet-woven<br>
bands was as starting bands (end-bands and selvedges, too) for weaving cloth on vertical, weighted looms.<br>
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