Roman headwear

[Anonymous]

Hi all<br>
<br>
Thank you for reading my bit. I am fed up with trying to grow my hair every year for the displays and the wigs get to hot so i have decided to wear a hat. a few years ago I remember seing a picture with a Roman cap has anyone else seen it and do you know its history.<br>
Thank you Bricca <p></p><i></i>

[richsc]

I looked through Croom's book, as well as "world of Roman Costume" and found only the palla pulled over the head, and a hairnet. But I think I remember hats from another source, particularly a statue with a flat brim and cone, the woman's face covered with the palla; is that what you were thinking of? <p></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

most hats seem to be worn by men- especially those involved in farming/fishing etc.<br>
<br>
got a picture from Tunisia of a woman[?] in some kind of headgear- it looks like shes wearing a pair of boxers on her head! <p><img src="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark.martin/forum/mark.gif
" width="100" height="100" align="right">
</p><i></i>

[venicone]

some images of headwear both male and female<br>
<br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i></i>

[venicone]

<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat2.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
<br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat3.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
<br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat4.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
<br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat5.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
<br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat6.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub27.ezboard.com/bromancivtalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=venicone>venicone</A> at: 5/31/03 8:03:05 am<br></i>

[venicone]

Bricca<br>
<br>
From John Peter Wilds "Clothing in the North-West Provinces of the Roman Empire"<br>
<br>
<strong>Bonnet</strong><br>
The wives of the Treveri occassionally wear a type of close fitting bonnet, rather like a bathing cap, which, to judge by the representations of it , must have been of a very light materiel. There are few certain instances of it, but it was probably in widespread use. A head from Neumagen is particularly helpful. The hair was wound round the head to form a roll above the forhead and ends in a neat bun at the nape of the neck. The whole is covered with a bonnet which reveals the contours of the coiffure beneath.<br>
<br>
There is also an altar at Domburg showing Nehalennia wearing a bonnet<br>
<br>
<strong>Headband</strong><br>
A rich womans grave from Mainz possibly 3rd C AD yielded a hair band in gold-brocade which was discovered in position on her forehead. It is 30cm long by 6mm wide.<br>
<br>
Such bands were not the priveledge of Roman women only - a young girl at Windeby was blindfolded with her own hair-band. The woollen band in sprang technique was 49cm long by 3 cm wide and was fringed at both ends. <p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub27.ezboard.com/bromancivtalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=venicone>venicone</A> at: 6/13/03 5:29 am<br></i>

[Anonymous]

hi again<br>
Thank you so much,sorry it has taken so long to reply.<br>
I can't wait to get started Thank you thank you<br>
bricca <p></p><i></i>

[venicone]

hi Bricca<br>
<br>
what are you going to try out? let us knwo how you get on?<br>
<br>
<p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

hi again<br>
I want to try out the bonnet but would like to have a look at the book you mentioned but I can't seem to find it.<br>
Do you happen to know the ISBN nom.<br>
<br>
yours Bricca <p></p><i></i>

[venicone]

have found this:<br>
<br>
Wild, J.-P. (196, ‘Clothing in the North-West provinces of the Romanempire’, Bonner Jahrbucher 168: 166-240<br>
<br>
another source and a very costly one too is here and due for release in sept 2003<br>
<br>
<br>
[url=http://books.cambridge.org/0521341078.htm" target="top]The Cambridge History of Western Textiles 2 Volume Boxed Set[/url]<br>
<p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

Bricca,<br>
There is a picture of a bonneted head from Birrens in Lindsay Allason Jones' 'Women in Roman Britain' although it is not the Treveri 'bathing cap' one Venicone mentioned.<br>
It is desribed as a cap which "completely covers the hair and is drawn into two 'wings' on either side of the head by two bands or 'fillets' like a dutch bonnet."<br>
<br>
Jackie.<br>
<p></p><i></i>

[venicone]

anaten<br>
<br>
that sounds like vardullis image of boxer shorts - seen here:<br>
<br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/hat2.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub27.ezboard.com/bromancivtalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=venicone>venicone</A> at: 7/2/03 5:54 pm<br></i>

[Anonymous]

Venicone,<br>
I think you could well be right.<br>
The picture in the book is a stone head and facing forward but now you've pointed it out I do see similarities between the this one and the mosaic depiction.<br>
<br>
Boxer shorts???<br>
Obviously there is more to this than meets the eye!<br>
<br>
Jackie. <p></p><i></i>

[venicone]

his description<br>
<br>
Ill have a look through my photos and see if I have any clearer ones <p><br>
<img src="http://www.ttforumfriends.com/images/forum/co.gif"/><br>
<br>
<span style="color:red;"><strong>[url=http://pub55.ezboard.com/btalkinghistory" target="top]Talking History Forum[/url]</strong></span></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

Okay I got it!<br>
I was a bit slow on the uptake there-I was looking for boxer shorts on the guy....and the woman was wearing them on her head all the time (duh...)<br>
<br>
<p></p><i></i>