08-23-2016, 05:42 PM
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This is Thrand performing a powerful overhand thrust without using the slide. Clearly there is still significant power without sliding/short throwing the shaft. Nor is power even that necessary, it takes little pressure for combat sharp iron to pierce flesh, and attacking any form of armor isn't wise.
Besides, Thrand is the only one promoting the slide. While its very interesting, there isn't any historical precedent for it. Maybe it was used, maybe it wasn't. Even if it wasn't, there are still plenty of reasons why overhand was better than under (re-read the entirety of this thread and a hundred similar threads in RAT for the answers as to why).
The wrist is not the most vulnerable part of the arm, I would say that's that would be the part that either has the largest and most easy accessible artery clusters (brachial in the upper arm), or the part which large and easy to reach muscles that can most easily disable the whole arm (again, upper arm, partial bicep or tricep severs cripple whole arm), or the area where the bones are at the thinnest and most easy to break (forearm).
I've pointed out to you before, the basic angle of the underhand grip already starts the spear user with an unnatural angle of the wrist. Look at this picture that shows a hoplite using the Chris Matthew/JaM Medium Guard Underhand grip, the wrist is not straight, it is heavily bent, angled. Have you heard of carpal tunnel syndrome? It is caused by compressing the median nerve in the wrist from holding the hands at awkward angles while typing, like this. Now compare those improper typing angles to the grip angle of the medium guard underhand grip and you'll see that the Medium Guard Underhand grip has the wrist at an angle that compressed the median nerve. Making it a weaker grip angle and more dangerous.
This is Thrand performing a powerful overhand thrust without using the slide. Clearly there is still significant power without sliding/short throwing the shaft. Nor is power even that necessary, it takes little pressure for combat sharp iron to pierce flesh, and attacking any form of armor isn't wise.
Besides, Thrand is the only one promoting the slide. While its very interesting, there isn't any historical precedent for it. Maybe it was used, maybe it wasn't. Even if it wasn't, there are still plenty of reasons why overhand was better than under (re-read the entirety of this thread and a hundred similar threads in RAT for the answers as to why).
The wrist is not the most vulnerable part of the arm, I would say that's that would be the part that either has the largest and most easy accessible artery clusters (brachial in the upper arm), or the part which large and easy to reach muscles that can most easily disable the whole arm (again, upper arm, partial bicep or tricep severs cripple whole arm), or the area where the bones are at the thinnest and most easy to break (forearm).
I've pointed out to you before, the basic angle of the underhand grip already starts the spear user with an unnatural angle of the wrist. Look at this picture that shows a hoplite using the Chris Matthew/JaM Medium Guard Underhand grip, the wrist is not straight, it is heavily bent, angled. Have you heard of carpal tunnel syndrome? It is caused by compressing the median nerve in the wrist from holding the hands at awkward angles while typing, like this. Now compare those improper typing angles to the grip angle of the medium guard underhand grip and you'll see that the Medium Guard Underhand grip has the wrist at an angle that compressed the median nerve. Making it a weaker grip angle and more dangerous.
