Bryan: starting to think i'll just ignore you..
for rest - at the time of Aristophanes (446 - 386 BC), he specifically mentioned high quality bronze muscled breastplate cost to be 1000 drachmae, and cost of a helmet 100 drachmae. (Peace,1221-1222,1249-1250)
Mr W. Kendrick Pritchett, published information about costs of these items:
Bow:7 dr
Bow and quiver: 15 dr
Spearhead: 3.5 ob
Spear pole: 2 dr
Shield: 20 dr
(type of drachma not specified)
Price of good cavalry horse went from 200 to 1200 drachmae, with average "warhorse" being sold for around 500
Simpson (1961) 47; Wagoner, Chalkey, and Cook (1978) 109–13.
Richter (1968) 73.
Kroll (1977) 83–140; Braun (1972) 129–269.
Kroll (1977) 86.
Ibid., 88."
Compare these numbers to costs of items in early medieval times, and you might get approximate idea how costly Mail could be...
(i'm still looking for similar info about mail, i have it somewhere, just need to find it)
A companion to a Roman Army has his info about census:
Outline of the later centuriate organization:
Class Qualification Centuries
Knights - 100,000–> 12
First class - 100,000–> 80
Sex suffragia - 100,000–> 6
Engineers - 100,000–> 2
Second class - 75,000–100,000 20
Third class - 50,000–75,000 20
Fourth class - 25,000–50,000 20
Fifth class - 12,500–25,000 30
Horn blowers - 12,500–25,000 2
Proletarii <–12,500 1
Qualification is in asses, sources: Livy 1.43, Dionysius 4.16–18,
Polybius 6.22–23, and Cicero, Rep. 2.39–40.
interesting is amount of centuries for the first class... almost as much as remaining classes combined (80 vs 90).. If that would be the case, then practically almost half could have the Hamata...
for rest - at the time of Aristophanes (446 - 386 BC), he specifically mentioned high quality bronze muscled breastplate cost to be 1000 drachmae, and cost of a helmet 100 drachmae. (Peace,1221-1222,1249-1250)
Mr W. Kendrick Pritchett, published information about costs of these items:
Bow:7 dr
Bow and quiver: 15 dr
Spearhead: 3.5 ob
Spear pole: 2 dr
Shield: 20 dr
(type of drachma not specified)
Price of good cavalry horse went from 200 to 1200 drachmae, with average "warhorse" being sold for around 500
Simpson (1961) 47; Wagoner, Chalkey, and Cook (1978) 109–13.
Richter (1968) 73.
Kroll (1977) 83–140; Braun (1972) 129–269.
Kroll (1977) 86.
Ibid., 88."
Compare these numbers to costs of items in early medieval times, and you might get approximate idea how costly Mail could be...
(i'm still looking for similar info about mail, i have it somewhere, just need to find it)
A companion to a Roman Army has his info about census:
Outline of the later centuriate organization:
Class Qualification Centuries
Knights - 100,000–> 12
First class - 100,000–> 80
Sex suffragia - 100,000–> 6
Engineers - 100,000–> 2
Second class - 75,000–100,000 20
Third class - 50,000–75,000 20
Fourth class - 25,000–50,000 20
Fifth class - 12,500–25,000 30
Horn blowers - 12,500–25,000 2
Proletarii <–12,500 1
Qualification is in asses, sources: Livy 1.43, Dionysius 4.16–18,
Polybius 6.22–23, and Cicero, Rep. 2.39–40.
interesting is amount of centuries for the first class... almost as much as remaining classes combined (80 vs 90).. If that would be the case, then practically almost half could have the Hamata...
Jaroslav Jakubov