We talked about music a while ago but I couldn't find the topic.<br>
Must have sunk in the depths of the tabularium.<br>
Someone asked what kind "roman sounding" of music could be played at roman reenacting events.<br>
Well.. Listen to this.<br>
At night around the fires, the roman soldiers probably sang something like that.<br>
Correction: they certainly sung something like that. This music comes to us through the ages.<br>
Go to the bottom of the page and LISTEN!<br>
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I listened to some of the music and Sir Antonius what you have is polophonic CHURCH music.<br>
as a music major from way back no known music from before the Gregorian Chant is known. the Gregorian chant was written down. and is the foundation for our present "staff system" of reading music.<br>
the polophonic is even later.<br>
just 'cause it sounds wierd' dont make it old. or that old.<br>
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there have been fragments found of Greek music but no one knows how to read it. rosetta stone anyone?<br>
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There is a bit by Dr. Will. Johnson, Univ of Cincinnati that interprets some U Mich papyri as Roman music for the aulos, and gives some recordings of it. At the following link, click 'what's new' then "Fragments of Ancient Instumental Music"<br>
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Or you could try Professor Andrew Barker at the Institute of Archaeology and Antiquities at Birmingham University. Prof Barker is the aknowledged expert on ancient Greek music and may well know a good deal about Roman music.<br>
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Crispus, you're stuck on 84, it seems... <br>
And yes, Gregorian chants. It actually sounds a bit like that.<br>
Actually the polyphonic songs performed by I Muvrini are not all religious songs, there are also profane songs. Love songs, basically, as always. They are "traditional" in the sense that they've always been there and no one in Corsica remembers since when.<br>
And yes, indeed, modern notation dates back from the Gregorian chants, but I suspect that the Gregorian chants did not pop up overnight out of nowhere. They stem from a tradition.<br>
As for polyphonic singing being even later than Gregorian, I have serious doubts. Before the invention of the musical instrument, people sang. Actually, the musical instrument was developed to accompany the song, and not the reverse.<br>
But mankind is in the habit of reinventing things at regular intervals. Looks like our memory banks aren't big enough..<br>
I also found this. Pretty interesting site for us laypersons. Fascinating site for those who know something about music...And maths..<br>
[url=http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/beginlst/ancient.html" target="top]www.medieval.org/emfaq/beginlst/ancient.html[/url]<br>
To go directly to the very complete page on Roman music:<br>
[url=http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/amt1396.htm" target="top]www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/amt1396.htm[/url]<br>
..And this one is about Roman music in Northern Europe. Several prayers, including one to Epona, the good Goddess of horses, one to Cernunnos the Lord of the Hunt, another one to Isis, with a text taken from her temple at Philae; a prayer to Apollo and one to Mars, with a text taken from roman army commands.<br>
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