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Show here your Roman soldier impression
Hello Paul

Thanks for showing the pictures again. The overall effect in my opinion looks wrong but as you have copied an exact tunic perhaps this requires some explanation. Compared to the loose and baggy early principate style later military tunics copying non Roman 'Barbarian' fashions were ironically more tailored and sophisticated. The most obvious addition was the inclusion of wrist length sleeves which Roman art invariably depict also had tight fitting cuffs. What you have appears to be a mixture of the early baggy look with the tight fitting sleeves and cuffs.

With the brief corpus of evidence that I have to hand, two types of late tunic appear to emerge, One is wide and has short stubby sleeves. The other is narrower with slightly longer sleeves. Based on observation of art I would suggest that the narrower type with the longer sleeves might be the style the military used. For instance compare your pose in the top picture to one of the figures in the Piazza Armerina mosaic with an outstretched arm. From your photo it would look like your tunic however is the other type. In which case that might even be a female garment.

However as I said earlier greater study needs to be carried out as to whom might have worn what and the information made readily available. I believe even something along these lines may already be in progress.

Not sure if this helps you but I feel it all adds to our knowledge.

Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.

"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock.

"..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
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Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-12-2004, 03:57 PM
Happy to Oblige! - by Mithras - 05-12-2004, 08:57 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by Anonymous - 05-12-2004, 10:42 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by Jasper Oorthuys - 05-13-2004, 12:07 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by Jasper Oorthuys - 05-13-2004, 01:39 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by aitor iriarte - 05-14-2004, 05:03 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-14-2004, 11:35 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-15-2004, 08:18 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-17-2004, 07:31 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-03-2004, 08:37 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-03-2004, 11:26 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-03-2004, 11:41 PM
impression - by Anonymous - 06-04-2004, 02:13 PM
Re: impression - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 06-04-2004, 02:29 PM
images - by Anonymous - 06-05-2004, 12:48 AM
A pic of me... - by TIBISIVS - 06-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Re: A pic of me... - by aitor iriarte - 06-07-2004, 05:47 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-07-2004, 04:01 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-08-2004, 08:05 AM
Samnite - by Anonymous - 06-15-2004, 09:03 PM
Re: Samnite - by Dan Diffendale - 06-15-2004, 11:14 PM
Samnites - by Anonymous - 06-16-2004, 01:42 AM
Re: Samnite - by Robert Vermaat - 06-16-2004, 06:06 AM
Samnite - by Anonymous - 06-16-2004, 03:15 PM
Re: Samnite - by Dan Diffendale - 06-16-2004, 03:41 PM
Samnite - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 06-17-2004, 01:28 AM
Re: Samnite - by Dan Diffendale - 06-17-2004, 04:45 AM
Re: Roman aquilifer impression - by Anonymous - 07-03-2004, 10:33 AM
my pic - by FAVENTIANVS - 07-04-2004, 05:54 PM
Re: my pic - by Robert Vermaat - 07-06-2004, 04:53 AM
Re: my pic - by Anonymous - 07-06-2004, 11:59 AM
impression - by Anonymous - 07-08-2004, 08:08 PM
Re: impression - by FAVENTIANVS - 07-09-2004, 01:48 PM
Re: impression - by Anonymous - 07-11-2004, 06:34 AM
Re: impression - by Anonymous - 07-11-2004, 02:57 PM
Re: impression - by aitor iriarte - 07-12-2004, 04:47 AM
Lucius\' pics - by aitor iriarte - 07-15-2004, 09:13 AM
Re: Lucius\' pics - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 07-15-2004, 09:21 AM
Re: Lucius\' pics - by aitor iriarte - 07-15-2004, 09:34 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 09-02-2004, 09:25 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 09-03-2004, 11:56 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 09-27-2004, 11:45 AM
New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-27-2004, 04:53 PM
Re: New look - by Robert Vermaat - 09-27-2004, 09:57 PM
Re: New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-28-2004, 10:16 AM
Re: New look - by Robert Vermaat - 09-28-2004, 02:25 PM
Re: New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-28-2004, 05:48 PM
Re: New look - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-28-2004, 10:27 PM
Re: New look - by Iulia Cassia Vegetia - 09-29-2004, 12:48 PM
Re: New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-30-2004, 09:35 PM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-02-2004, 02:09 PM
Re: New look - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-03-2004, 05:31 PM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-03-2004, 07:08 PM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-09-2004, 01:14 AM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-09-2004, 09:30 PM
1ST c IMPRESSION - by John M McDermott - 10-11-2004, 01:18 PM
go both ways - by Anonymous - 10-14-2004, 07:48 PM
me me me - by Anonymous - 10-16-2004, 02:31 PM
graham - by Anonymous - 10-16-2004, 02:33 PM
Re: graham - by Anonymous - 10-17-2004, 10:56 PM
Re: Late Roman - by Theodosius the Great - 01-27-2005, 08:13 PM
Re: Late Roman - by Jasper Oorthuys - 01-28-2005, 08:36 AM
Re: Late Roman - by Robert Vermaat - 01-28-2005, 10:22 AM
Other pics - by Theodosius the Great - 01-28-2005, 03:42 PM
Re: My pics - by Tarbicus - 01-28-2005, 04:17 PM
Re: My pics - by Caius Fabius - 01-28-2005, 11:46 PM
Re: My pics - by Jasper Oorthuys - 01-30-2005, 08:05 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 02-07-2005, 08:05 AM
Late Roman - by Theodosius the Great - 02-08-2005, 12:40 AM
Re: Late Roman - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 02-08-2005, 01:30 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 03-01-2005, 08:09 PM
Mithras and Co - by Anonymous - 03-05-2005, 12:00 PM
NEW IMAGE - by FAVENTIANVS - 03-08-2005, 10:55 PM
NEW IMAGE - by Theodosius the Great - 03-09-2005, 12:03 AM
Re: NEW IMAGE - by aitor iriarte - 03-09-2005, 06:58 AM
Re: NEW IMAGE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-10-2005, 11:15 AM
Re: NEW IMAGE - by FAVENTIANVS - 03-10-2005, 04:17 PM
Re: Mithras and Co - by Mithras - 03-16-2005, 01:06 PM
Re: Mithras and Co - by Anonymous - 03-16-2005, 01:57 PM
Re: Mithras and Co - by Mithras - 03-16-2005, 04:02 PM
New Pic of me with new Camera - by Anonymous - 03-26-2005, 04:01 PM
Re: New Pics w/ Improvements - by Robert Vermaat - 04-02-2005, 02:49 PM
Basis for the sagum - by FAVENTIANVS - 04-09-2005, 03:10 PM
It was this or golf - by Tarbicus - 04-25-2005, 07:51 AM
Augustean Legionary - by maritimus - 05-04-2005, 03:22 PM
Miles LEG I GER - by TIBISIVS - 05-04-2005, 09:33 PM
Focale - by Sandra/Viventia - 05-05-2005, 10:42 AM
republican - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-06-2005, 08:42 AM
Neuraleanus blowing his own horn - by Neuraleanus - 05-17-2005, 12:31 AM
The cornu gives a nice deep tone - by Neuraleanus - 05-18-2005, 03:24 PM
Aquilifer - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 06-02-2005, 05:46 AM
Parade Face Mask Helmet - by Sassanid - 06-03-2005, 10:20 PM
Three [roman] amigos - by Neuraleanus - 06-03-2005, 11:41 PM
Yes, late 1st century - by Neuraleanus - 06-04-2005, 01:17 PM
Danvm Shield use - by Peroni - 07-08-2005, 12:27 PM
Danum shield - by Antonius Lucretius - 07-08-2005, 12:31 PM
Doncaster shield - by Peroni - 07-11-2005, 02:52 PM
French site. - by Peroni - 07-12-2005, 09:47 AM
Vertical Grip - by Peroni - 07-13-2005, 12:20 PM
Italian Linen - by Iulia Cassia Vegetia - 12-23-2005, 05:02 AM
Re: Italian Linen - by tlclark - 12-27-2005, 03:55 PM
re - by Johnny Shumate - 02-01-2006, 03:09 AM
Subarmalis - by Peroni - 02-03-2006, 10:17 AM
Optio and Centurion - by Quintus Julius Furius - 04-14-2006, 09:42 AM
Sagittarius and velite - by Quintus Julius Furius - 04-14-2006, 09:50 AM
Numidian... - by Quintus Julius Furius - 04-14-2006, 09:51 AM
Impression Pic - by Gallus Marinus Micarius - 05-03-2006, 10:34 AM
Bellator Sempronious - by Bellator Sempronious - 07-09-2006, 03:01 AM
Gaius Messius - by Finlandese - 07-27-2006, 07:39 AM
Not a roman - by Folkert van Wijk - 08-25-2006, 09:57 AM
Roman Outfit - by RUBICON - 01-30-2007, 10:32 AM
Re: Roman Outfit - by Jvrjenivs - 01-30-2007, 01:44 PM
legio X officers - by John M McDermott - 03-01-2007, 12:24 AM
Legio X troops - by John M McDermott - 03-03-2007, 06:25 PM
Legio XF action photo - by John M McDermott - 03-05-2007, 04:13 PM
Took me long enough - by lvcivs - 03-08-2007, 10:21 PM
Re: legio X officers - by Theodosius the Great - 03-12-2007, 06:48 AM
impressions - by Mac - 04-10-2007, 09:20 PM
Re: impressions - by Marcus Mummius - 04-10-2007, 10:50 PM
picture - by Mac - 04-12-2007, 12:32 AM
Posting Pics - by Doc - 04-23-2007, 05:02 PM
Re: show us your roman impression - by Mithras - 06-04-2007, 10:20 PM
bow - by Graham Sumner - 06-08-2007, 09:55 PM
post subjet - by Gaius Longius - 06-13-2007, 06:25 PM
CHESTER - by Graham Sumner - 06-14-2007, 09:28 PM
Re: CHESTER - by Et tu brute - 06-15-2007, 08:38 AM
My Legionary Impression - by Gaius_Calvus - 07-16-2007, 01:48 PM
Auxiliary Impression - by Gaius_Calvus - 07-16-2007, 01:53 PM
WEDDING - by Graham Sumner - 09-10-2007, 03:54 PM
musculata response - by Tribune Valerius - 10-01-2007, 08:47 AM
Legio XF Centurion - by John M McDermott - 10-15-2007, 04:41 PM
Republican impression - by John M McDermott - 04-05-2008, 07:02 PM
Marcus and I - by Neuraleanus - 05-03-2008, 07:05 PM
Roman event - by Paullus Scipio - 06-30-2008, 07:22 PM
Impression - by Tiberius - 07-17-2008, 06:52 PM
TUNICS - by Graham Sumner - 07-31-2008, 07:26 PM
Shield work - by Aemilianus - 08-05-2008, 09:49 PM
about different equipment - by Aemilianus - 08-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Shoes - by Aemilianus - 08-06-2008, 05:38 AM
Early Batavian Impression - by Gaius_Calvus - 10-14-2008, 07:32 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by strawberry jelly - 02-15-2009, 03:59 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Graham Sumner - 12-09-2009, 10:42 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by nagmar - 03-03-2010, 02:32 AM
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Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by ambract - 12-29-2010, 06:34 AM
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Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Antonivs Cvrro Graecvs - 05-21-2011, 10:55 PM
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