12-28-2005, 02:05 PM
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"arrentine"
I thought I could be wrong, soI checked the spelling on it in my books, and it's Arretine, no "n"-after pieces found in Arezzo, northern Italy.
If someone had a GOOD REPRODUCTION, I would make a plaster cast first . To avoid the shrinkage problem, I would then use a high grog clay, which shrinks very little, to make the final piece. My regular clay shrinks 10%-a high grog clay (grog is finely ground fired clay)shrinks maybe 3%, depending on content. The only concern is tht the grog would not allow me to have a smooth, burnished surface.
Alternately, I would make a REALLY REALLY good copy that was 10% larger, and take a cast of IT, and then use the mold with my regular clay, which is very smooth and finely grained. Understand that the "mold" would consist of a bowl which I would place on the wheel and in which I would center the clay and then press it against the sides, thus impressing designs on the outside of the piece.
Romans also used clay cylinders with designs impressed in them, and rolled them along the vessel to decorate them. Yet another way was Barbotine, that is, adding the decoration afterwards, much as one would decorate a cake.
With LEATHER though, my guess is that WOOD molds were used, much as they are today in the making of a good saddle.
Good luck in your fabric reasearch-I'm really curious about what you come up with.
Right now, I'm doing some heavy-duty research into making clay cookpots that work over an open fire. We had one from Italy that lasted 2 years with heavy use before it finally died, and we were able to put it on an electric burner regularly. I have had 5 cookpot failures up until now, and I think that it's the clay itself-so I am trying a different clay body. I just bought some Raku clay-which is able to withstand thermal shock. We shall see...
Also, have you ever made any bird-incised Byzantine glazed ware or pilgrimage flasks? I love your canteens and campware, I would love to have some in a Byzantine style.
Please, DO send me a picture-I can copy just about anything in clay, and if you're really interested, I'd give it a try.
"arrentine"
I thought I could be wrong, soI checked the spelling on it in my books, and it's Arretine, no "n"-after pieces found in Arezzo, northern Italy.
If someone had a GOOD REPRODUCTION, I would make a plaster cast first . To avoid the shrinkage problem, I would then use a high grog clay, which shrinks very little, to make the final piece. My regular clay shrinks 10%-a high grog clay (grog is finely ground fired clay)shrinks maybe 3%, depending on content. The only concern is tht the grog would not allow me to have a smooth, burnished surface.
Alternately, I would make a REALLY REALLY good copy that was 10% larger, and take a cast of IT, and then use the mold with my regular clay, which is very smooth and finely grained. Understand that the "mold" would consist of a bowl which I would place on the wheel and in which I would center the clay and then press it against the sides, thus impressing designs on the outside of the piece.
Romans also used clay cylinders with designs impressed in them, and rolled them along the vessel to decorate them. Yet another way was Barbotine, that is, adding the decoration afterwards, much as one would decorate a cake.
With LEATHER though, my guess is that WOOD molds were used, much as they are today in the making of a good saddle.
Good luck in your fabric reasearch-I'm really curious about what you come up with.
Right now, I'm doing some heavy-duty research into making clay cookpots that work over an open fire. We had one from Italy that lasted 2 years with heavy use before it finally died, and we were able to put it on an electric burner regularly. I have had 5 cookpot failures up until now, and I think that it's the clay itself-so I am trying a different clay body. I just bought some Raku clay-which is able to withstand thermal shock. We shall see...
Also, have you ever made any bird-incised Byzantine glazed ware or pilgrimage flasks? I love your canteens and campware, I would love to have some in a Byzantine style.
Please, DO send me a picture-I can copy just about anything in clay, and if you're really interested, I'd give it a try.
Saluti, Love and Light
Iulia Cassia Vegetia
a.k.a Julia Passamonti-Colamartino
Legio III Cyrenaica
Maker of Amphorae
<a class="postlink" href="http://venetiancat.com">http://venetiancat.com
Once I learned to herd cats, I realized that ANYTHING is possible..."
Iulia Cassia Vegetia
a.k.a Julia Passamonti-Colamartino
Legio III Cyrenaica
Maker of Amphorae
<a class="postlink" href="http://venetiancat.com">http://venetiancat.com
Once I learned to herd cats, I realized that ANYTHING is possible..."
