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Show here your Roman soldier impression
Hello Yurko

Curious to know why it being accepted practice for the mounted arm and not for an infantryman

It is not accepted practice that the fascia is worn by cavalry and not infantry as the majority of characters who appear to be wearing it in ancient art are infantry. One function of the fascia ventralis would appear to be to protect the tunic from the belt and some supporting evidence for this can be seen in a Vindolanda writing tablet. A possible later waistband may be seen on the Dura Europos Terentius Fresco and a hunting mosaic from Apamea, both referenced in RMD.

However I think the initial question was, what is the evidence for the fabric waistband being worn over mail in the late empire by either cavalry or infantry? I would have to answer none at all as far as I am aware but I would be delighted to hear otherwise.

Indeed I think I only found three pieces of evidence for the fabric belts being worn over armour in the entire Republican or early imperial period combined, one of which is a possible legionary. Only one of those three clearly looks like a fabric belt, the one from the Etruscan relief, while the other two including the warrior illustrated above are not so straightforward to interpret.

Thanks for your PM and I am pleased to hear you like the book!

Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.

"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock.

"..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
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Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-12-2004, 03:57 PM
Happy to Oblige! - by Mithras - 05-12-2004, 08:57 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by Anonymous - 05-12-2004, 10:42 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by Jasper Oorthuys - 05-13-2004, 12:07 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by Jasper Oorthuys - 05-13-2004, 01:39 PM
Re: Happy to Oblige! - by aitor iriarte - 05-14-2004, 05:03 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-14-2004, 11:35 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-15-2004, 08:18 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 05-17-2004, 07:31 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-03-2004, 08:37 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-03-2004, 11:26 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-03-2004, 11:41 PM
impression - by Anonymous - 06-04-2004, 02:13 PM
Re: impression - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 06-04-2004, 02:29 PM
images - by Anonymous - 06-05-2004, 12:48 AM
A pic of me... - by TIBISIVS - 06-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Re: A pic of me... - by aitor iriarte - 06-07-2004, 05:47 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-07-2004, 04:01 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 06-08-2004, 08:05 AM
Samnite - by Anonymous - 06-15-2004, 09:03 PM
Re: Samnite - by Dan Diffendale - 06-15-2004, 11:14 PM
Samnites - by Anonymous - 06-16-2004, 01:42 AM
Re: Samnite - by Robert Vermaat - 06-16-2004, 06:06 AM
Samnite - by Anonymous - 06-16-2004, 03:15 PM
Re: Samnite - by Dan Diffendale - 06-16-2004, 03:41 PM
Samnite - by Ivlivs·Aemilivs·Celer - 06-17-2004, 01:28 AM
Re: Samnite - by Dan Diffendale - 06-17-2004, 04:45 AM
Re: Roman aquilifer impression - by Anonymous - 07-03-2004, 10:33 AM
my pic - by FAVENTIANVS - 07-04-2004, 05:54 PM
Re: my pic - by Robert Vermaat - 07-06-2004, 04:53 AM
Re: my pic - by Anonymous - 07-06-2004, 11:59 AM
impression - by Anonymous - 07-08-2004, 08:08 PM
Re: impression - by FAVENTIANVS - 07-09-2004, 01:48 PM
Re: impression - by Anonymous - 07-11-2004, 06:34 AM
Re: impression - by Anonymous - 07-11-2004, 02:57 PM
Re: impression - by aitor iriarte - 07-12-2004, 04:47 AM
Lucius\' pics - by aitor iriarte - 07-15-2004, 09:13 AM
Re: Lucius\' pics - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 07-15-2004, 09:21 AM
Re: Lucius\' pics - by aitor iriarte - 07-15-2004, 09:34 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 09-02-2004, 09:25 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 09-03-2004, 11:56 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 09-27-2004, 11:45 AM
New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-27-2004, 04:53 PM
Re: New look - by Robert Vermaat - 09-27-2004, 09:57 PM
Re: New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-28-2004, 10:16 AM
Re: New look - by Robert Vermaat - 09-28-2004, 02:25 PM
Re: New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-28-2004, 05:48 PM
Re: New look - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-28-2004, 10:27 PM
Re: New look - by Iulia Cassia Vegetia - 09-29-2004, 12:48 PM
Re: New look - by FAVENTIANVS - 09-30-2004, 09:35 PM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-02-2004, 02:09 PM
Re: New look - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-03-2004, 05:31 PM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-03-2004, 07:08 PM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-09-2004, 01:14 AM
Re: New look - by Anonymous - 10-09-2004, 09:30 PM
1ST c IMPRESSION - by John M McDermott - 10-11-2004, 01:18 PM
go both ways - by Anonymous - 10-14-2004, 07:48 PM
me me me - by Anonymous - 10-16-2004, 02:31 PM
graham - by Anonymous - 10-16-2004, 02:33 PM
Re: graham - by Anonymous - 10-17-2004, 10:56 PM
Re: Late Roman - by Theodosius the Great - 01-27-2005, 08:13 PM
Re: Late Roman - by Jasper Oorthuys - 01-28-2005, 08:36 AM
Re: Late Roman - by Robert Vermaat - 01-28-2005, 10:22 AM
Other pics - by Theodosius the Great - 01-28-2005, 03:42 PM
Re: My pics - by Tarbicus - 01-28-2005, 04:17 PM
Re: My pics - by Caius Fabius - 01-28-2005, 11:46 PM
Re: My pics - by Jasper Oorthuys - 01-30-2005, 08:05 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 02-07-2005, 08:05 AM
Late Roman - by Theodosius the Great - 02-08-2005, 12:40 AM
Re: Late Roman - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 02-08-2005, 01:30 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Anonymous - 03-01-2005, 08:09 PM
Mithras and Co - by Anonymous - 03-05-2005, 12:00 PM
NEW IMAGE - by FAVENTIANVS - 03-08-2005, 10:55 PM
NEW IMAGE - by Theodosius the Great - 03-09-2005, 12:03 AM
Re: NEW IMAGE - by aitor iriarte - 03-09-2005, 06:58 AM
Re: NEW IMAGE - by Robert Vermaat - 03-10-2005, 11:15 AM
Re: NEW IMAGE - by FAVENTIANVS - 03-10-2005, 04:17 PM
Re: Mithras and Co - by Mithras - 03-16-2005, 01:06 PM
Re: Mithras and Co - by Anonymous - 03-16-2005, 01:57 PM
Re: Mithras and Co - by Mithras - 03-16-2005, 04:02 PM
New Pic of me with new Camera - by Anonymous - 03-26-2005, 04:01 PM
Re: New Pics w/ Improvements - by Robert Vermaat - 04-02-2005, 02:49 PM
Basis for the sagum - by FAVENTIANVS - 04-09-2005, 03:10 PM
It was this or golf - by Tarbicus - 04-25-2005, 07:51 AM
Augustean Legionary - by maritimus - 05-04-2005, 03:22 PM
Miles LEG I GER - by TIBISIVS - 05-04-2005, 09:33 PM
Focale - by Sandra/Viventia - 05-05-2005, 10:42 AM
republican - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-06-2005, 08:42 AM
Neuraleanus blowing his own horn - by Neuraleanus - 05-17-2005, 12:31 AM
The cornu gives a nice deep tone - by Neuraleanus - 05-18-2005, 03:24 PM
Aquilifer - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 06-02-2005, 05:46 AM
Parade Face Mask Helmet - by Sassanid - 06-03-2005, 10:20 PM
Three [roman] amigos - by Neuraleanus - 06-03-2005, 11:41 PM
Yes, late 1st century - by Neuraleanus - 06-04-2005, 01:17 PM
Danvm Shield use - by Peroni - 07-08-2005, 12:27 PM
Danum shield - by Antonius Lucretius - 07-08-2005, 12:31 PM
Doncaster shield - by Peroni - 07-11-2005, 02:52 PM
French site. - by Peroni - 07-12-2005, 09:47 AM
Vertical Grip - by Peroni - 07-13-2005, 12:20 PM
Italian Linen - by Iulia Cassia Vegetia - 12-23-2005, 05:02 AM
Re: Italian Linen - by tlclark - 12-27-2005, 03:55 PM
re - by Johnny Shumate - 02-01-2006, 03:09 AM
Subarmalis - by Peroni - 02-03-2006, 10:17 AM
Optio and Centurion - by Quintus Julius Furius - 04-14-2006, 09:42 AM
Sagittarius and velite - by Quintus Julius Furius - 04-14-2006, 09:50 AM
Numidian... - by Quintus Julius Furius - 04-14-2006, 09:51 AM
Impression Pic - by Gallus Marinus Micarius - 05-03-2006, 10:34 AM
Bellator Sempronious - by Bellator Sempronious - 07-09-2006, 03:01 AM
Gaius Messius - by Finlandese - 07-27-2006, 07:39 AM
Not a roman - by Folkert van Wijk - 08-25-2006, 09:57 AM
Roman Outfit - by RUBICON - 01-30-2007, 10:32 AM
Re: Roman Outfit - by Jvrjenivs - 01-30-2007, 01:44 PM
legio X officers - by John M McDermott - 03-01-2007, 12:24 AM
Legio X troops - by John M McDermott - 03-03-2007, 06:25 PM
Legio XF action photo - by John M McDermott - 03-05-2007, 04:13 PM
Took me long enough - by lvcivs - 03-08-2007, 10:21 PM
Re: legio X officers - by Theodosius the Great - 03-12-2007, 06:48 AM
impressions - by Mac - 04-10-2007, 09:20 PM
Re: impressions - by Marcus Mummius - 04-10-2007, 10:50 PM
picture - by Mac - 04-12-2007, 12:32 AM
Posting Pics - by Doc - 04-23-2007, 05:02 PM
Re: show us your roman impression - by Mithras - 06-04-2007, 10:20 PM
bow - by Graham Sumner - 06-08-2007, 09:55 PM
post subjet - by Gaius Longius - 06-13-2007, 06:25 PM
CHESTER - by Graham Sumner - 06-14-2007, 09:28 PM
Re: CHESTER - by Et tu brute - 06-15-2007, 08:38 AM
My Legionary Impression - by Gaius_Calvus - 07-16-2007, 01:48 PM
Auxiliary Impression - by Gaius_Calvus - 07-16-2007, 01:53 PM
WEDDING - by Graham Sumner - 09-10-2007, 03:54 PM
musculata response - by Tribune Valerius - 10-01-2007, 08:47 AM
Legio XF Centurion - by John M McDermott - 10-15-2007, 04:41 PM
Republican impression - by John M McDermott - 04-05-2008, 07:02 PM
Marcus and I - by Neuraleanus - 05-03-2008, 07:05 PM
Roman event - by Paullus Scipio - 06-30-2008, 07:22 PM
Impression - by Tiberius - 07-17-2008, 06:52 PM
TUNICS - by Graham Sumner - 07-31-2008, 07:26 PM
Shield work - by Aemilianus - 08-05-2008, 09:49 PM
about different equipment - by Aemilianus - 08-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Shoes - by Aemilianus - 08-06-2008, 05:38 AM
Early Batavian Impression - by Gaius_Calvus - 10-14-2008, 07:32 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by strawberry jelly - 02-15-2009, 03:59 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by nagmar - 03-03-2010, 02:32 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Volusius Vetonianus - 07-11-2010, 10:13 PM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by ambract - 12-29-2010, 06:34 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 02-21-2011, 09:00 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Graham Sumner - 04-26-2011, 07:51 AM
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - by Antonivs Cvrro Graecvs - 05-21-2011, 10:55 PM
Re: - by Graham Sumner - 11-09-2011, 04:40 AM
Re: - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-09-2011, 02:56 PM
Re: - by Caballo - 11-09-2011, 03:40 PM
Re: Show here your Roman soldier impression - by David Perez - 08-05-2012, 12:25 AM
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Show here your Roman soldier impression - by Doc - 09-30-2012, 12:57 AM
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