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Military maps
#1
I went through many threads here but still havent found answers.
It's very simple. Do we have any stricte military maps which have survived till today?
I know about Tabula or map of Rome on marble, but the are not military maps.

I mean, they had to use somekind of maps when they had gone for the war. Some small, portable, light maps.
I'd like to recreate one for the purpose of our group, but do we have any finding?

Was in made on wood? Leather? Parchment?
Were they in color?
How did they look like?

The only thing I have found it this http://shambalah.com/cellarius.html but how accurate it this source? I mean, I hardly belive in such complete maps (I guess maps are based on XIX century knowledge, right?
Damian
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#2
(12-16-2015, 11:31 PM)AustralianMagic Wrote: I guess maps are based on XIX century knowledge, right?

Of course they are. They are geographically way too correct. And as the first page says, they are designed in London 1823.
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#3
Do you have any knowledge about thing called Itinerarium.
I know what is it but how it looked like?
Damian
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#4
Maybe you should look for Claudius Ptolemy the Astronomer, Geographer and Mathematician, though I dont know if any originals of his maps exist there are medieval copies that are said to be accurate copies of the originals...
There is I think a book dealing with his maps that was recently published:

http://www.oxbowbooks.com/oxbow/ptolemy-...16778.html

http://www.oxbowbooks.com/oxbow/catalogs...s+Geograph

Itineraium: a list of place names and distances bettween them, a modern reconstruction in map form:

http://www.omnesviae.org/
http://www.omnesviae.org/reconstruction/

I would guess you plan your route by the shortest route to your destination using the Itineraium as the guide... with this you need no knowledge of geography much like with Google route finder etc...
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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(12-17-2015, 09:22 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Maybe you should look for Claudius Ptolemy the Astronomer, Geographer and Mathematician, though I dont know if any originals of his maps exist there are medieval copies that are said to me accurate copies of the originals...
There is I think a book dealing with his maps that was recently published:

http://www.oxbowbooks.com/oxbow/ptolemy-...16778.html

http://www.oxbowbooks.com/oxbow/catalogs...s+Geograph

Itineraium: a list of place names and distances bettween them, a modern reconstruction in map form:

http://www.omnesviae.org/
http://www.omnesviae.org/reconstruction/

I would guess you plan your route by the shortest route to your destination using the Itineraium as the guide... with this you need no knowledge of geography much like with Google route finder etc...

Omnes Viae is based off the Tabula Peutingerina which is the only map of the Roman world to survive from Roman times, dating to the mid-4th century AD.
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#6
One idea-not strictly a military map but it can give you ideas on material and suggestions on how to make it look ancient. I suspect Roman military maps weren't that different.
Remember-no one had experience with a height perspective like we do from aerial/satellite shots and balloon/air travel-save for looking down from a hill or mountain. So map perspectives were pretty skewed when covering large areas.
It's hard to put yourself in that mindset since we have seen modern maps and satellite views amongst other things. To make a facsimile of an ancient map-you got to purge your mind of modern maps. I hope I'm explaining myself right.
Probably best to sketch out on dirt and go from there. HAHAHA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turin_Papyrus_Map#/

http://www.eeescience.utoledo.edu/Facult...p_text.htm

When you and I sketch one out on handy material-scrap paper and a pencil is really that much different?
-Rod Dickson
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#7
Thanks for all replies Smile

If I understand this correctly, these maps are based on Ptolemy's maps.


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Damian
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