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Caius Fabius · 01-15-2005, 07:20 PM

You either have extra time or money. This is modified as your age quotient increases to allow the possibility of both time and money increasing, but usually outside factors will reduce the available time, and tie up additional money. 
Time is constant, you choose where you will spend it. You have a limited amount of time, but you usually don't know how much. 
 
Time = 24 hours a day multiplied by ??? days. 
Use it wisely. You don't get refills. 
 
Money is time, converted. Some people convert time better than others. You have money = to 24 hours a day x previous days, x your personal conversion rate minus your other expenses. 
 
Roman stuff holds it's value, or increases, (unless you ask your wife) so investments you make in proper Roman stuff usually don't have to become re-occurring expenses (excepting wine and food), therefore, the Roman stuff you buy is an investment in your future. (buy your armor a few sizes larger, so when Time plus food plus slowing metabolism = larger girth, they still will fit). 
 
Time plus survival plus X interest of investments mean that the older you get, the more Roman stuff you can accrue, and the more time you will have to use it, until the final reckoning, when you pass all that stuff to the next trooper...... 
 
Therefore Old Guys will be re-enactors even when they would have been retired from the Roman Army, and new guys (and gals) should hope to find older mentors to help them with loaner equipment until they can afford to make their own investments! By the year 2105 we should have enough kitted our Roman re-enactors to fill a whole legion, if people and their heirs take care of the equipments they obtain and pass it on to like-minded people..... 
 
and now back to my wine.......... Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=caiusfabius>Caius Fabius</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ROMANISROMANORVM/files/C%20Fabius%201988b.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 1/16/05 1:39 am

Tarbicus · 01-15-2005, 09:09 PM

Yes. I see I'll be eating those words for quite some time to come

**richsc** · 01-15-2005, 09:56 PM

The latest request for our group to do a school demo wasn't for military, but to depict a Roman market place. The women teachers and mom's who watch the demos are far more interested in the daily living aspect, so increasing the civilian component is a trend we all can look into. 
 
Problem is, for show and tell, soldiers have so much neat stuff to show off. A market place has a lot of neat stuff to show off too. Much harder to explain Roman banking, or do a trial, in a short period of time for a venue. 
 
Legio XX 
Caput dolet, pedes fetent, Iesum non amo

01-16-2005, 07:04 AM

Hey Rich, maybe those two sisters could stand in for a demo as harlots...that's something exciting for show and tell... Magnus/Matt 
Legio XXX "Ulpia Victrix" 
Niagara Falls, Canada

Theodosius the Great · 01-16-2005, 08:43 AM

Quote:<hr>... (it) feels that we are all getting numerically smaller and older with avarage ages in the 40s instead of 20s.<hr> 
 
Well, I joined the hobby seven months ago and I'm 24 . 
 
Before that, I didn't even know the hobby really existed. I had watched many documentaries on the History channel that featured Roman reenactors. But I had assumed that the hobby was rare and restricted mainly to Britain. 
 
Later, I sought out reenactment societies on the internet and ,by good fortune, happened to first come upon Matthew Amt's website. He really helped me get started on my way to reenacting. I had no clue as to how popular the hobby was in Europe and (to my deep surprise) in the United States. 
 
To gain more publicity, maybe some local groups should get together and start an annual city parade strictly for Roman reenactors. And every year, maybe they could target a different city or town in order to maximize our efforts. I don't know what the fees are to get a permit for that though, so maybe that's not feasible. 
 
Just trying to throw out some ideas to boost recruiting efforts . 
 
As for my view on the future of the hobby, I'm quite optimistic about it since historical epics are making a comeback. If it weren't for "Gladiator" I don't think I'd be here today . 
 
-Theo

01-16-2005, 04:22 PM

having a group that does some "fighting" as opposed to "marching" does wonders for attracting the younger blokes. 
 
The same with crafty type skills, if you actually _do _ them as opposed to a static display of the equipment then that does wonders for recruitment too. 
 
Still.... some periods are HUGE whereas others are relatively small. Look at the number of wars of the roses groups compared to roman/iron age over here .......are people simply more attracted to the later periods ........ ?????????

**richsc** · 01-17-2005, 04:07 AM

Matt? oh, *those* sisters. Not sure it that would be the right tack for recruiting them. Legio XX 
Caupona Asellinae

01-18-2005, 09:58 PM

I agree with the idea that combat would attract younger audiances, when I was 16 and first started U.S. Civil War I was all piss and vinegar and wanted nothing more than to tear the guts out of the rebs. I didn't really start to enjoy living history until I got into WWII a couple of years later. I think the problem as stated before is money, though I see getting all my stuff together when I'm young and don't have too many bills and other things to pay for making it easier to get stuff for. 
 
I think another problem younger guys have is that alot of people, particularly the opposite sex think you're crazy for reenacting. I can vouch for this, though maybe its partly deserved as I must be out of my mind to spend all this money on a hobby.

TFLAVIUSAMBIORIX · 01-19-2005, 02:28 AM

Although It does often seem that less young people are drawn to reenacting, It does not seem like the auxiliaries in the Leg XXIV have any trouble with this, with no one over 21 we have, probably one of the youngst cross sections around.

01-19-2005, 12:33 PM

TFLAVIUSAMBIORIX 
 
You get a cigar 
 
WHen we started Leg III Cyrenaica, most of the "founding members" already had Segs and all of the Gear. 
So Flavian era was voted in as our primary focus. 
Now that we've grown we have just authorized an auxilliarie cohort from Menapia. 
The focus behind this is two fold. 
One of course, is to have an auxilliary impressions as well as Miles, the other, is that it is much less expensive to get started. 
 
If someone is truly motivated, they can make their own butted maille, (not 100% accurate but not so bad) Make their own soft kit and their own Clipeus and Spear and the only real expenses are for Caligae ( at $60 it's not even worth trying to make a pair) and Helmets. 
 
TFLAVIUSAMBIORIX, I'd be interested to see a group photo of your people.

01-19-2005, 03:54 PM

Salve, I'm new here (I've been visiting for a couple of days and now finally I've joined you all). 
 
I'm a re-enactor myself, 17 years old and I started with the Romans and lately also expending to Greece. Almost nobody here in Belgium knows what re-enactment is, and when I explain, people stare at me and say "how crazy are you?". 
 
Then when you show images from the internet or so, they get interested. But here at my school (I can't compare to others) there is an "history is boring"-attitude, which is quite sad.

Marcus Mummius · 01-19-2005, 05:16 PM

Salve Flavius Claudius Turpilianus, 
 
I'm from Belgium too. We are in the process of starting the first Roman re-enactment group in our country. 
Legio XXX Coh IV will be about military and civilian re-enactment. I think most of our members will be from the age-range of 18-35. If you are interested please email me 
 
[email protected]

01-19-2005, 05:56 PM

Check your email

TFLAVIUSAMBIORIX · 01-19-2005, 06:33 PM

Unfortunately there is no available group Photo, there is also the slinger impression, very cheap, and skirmisher impression. on the other end of the spectrum there is a mounted cavalry trooper who is working on getting the gear together, It is a girl about 16 who has agreed to disguise her identity, should be a very impressive sightwith cavalry sports gear. 
 
TFAMBIORIX COH I NERV LEG XXIV

**Robert Vermaat** · 01-20-2005, 01:52 PM

Hi Marcus, 
Good for you! 
 
But the first? I know two (at least partly) Belgium-based groups: II Herculia (who are part French) and the Teuxandrii: [url=http://home.planet.nl/~creij006/" target="top]home.planet.nl/~creij006/[/url]) (who I'm not sure they'r either Belgian or Dutch), as well as a Belgian archaeologist who does 1st C. (Bernard Van Daele: [url=http://www.quintus.be" target="top]www.quintus.be[/url]). 
Valete, 
Valerius/Robert 
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