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New Dictionary of Military Terms
#1
Wondering why Halloween was chosen as the release date ;-)

https://www.academia.edu/8851403/Ut_Milites_Dicuntur
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#2
Can we pre-order it?
Michael King Macdona

And do as adversaries do in law, -
Strive mightily, but eat and drink as friends.
(The Taming of the Shrew: Act 1, Scene 2)
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#3
not through Amazon

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#4
You could always Pm the redoubtable M.C.Bishop on this forum :wink:
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#5
I put the word out on Facebook RAT
Richard Campbell
Legio XX - Alexandria, Virginia
RAT member #6?
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#6
Getting into arguments on the translation of the title. The Latinists I asked suggest that "sic milites loquuntur" is better. Any idea what Mike thinks??
Richard Campbell
Legio XX - Alexandria, Virginia
RAT member #6?
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#7
Thus spake the Milites does sound better IMO.
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#8
Oh dear I have put the cat among the pigeons :whistle:
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#9
Quote:The Latinists I asked suggest that "sic milites loquuntur" is better.

Quote:Thus spake the Milites does sound better IMO.
It depends upon what you're trying to say. 'How the soldiers are spoken of' is perfectly all right, if that is what you want.
Michael King Macdona

And do as adversaries do in law, -
Strive mightily, but eat and drink as friends.
(The Taming of the Shrew: Act 1, Scene 2)
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#10
Oh boy... I think cat and pigeons is going to be the least of this particular thread... :wink:
Moi Watson

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Merlot in one hand, Cigar in the other; body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, what a ride!
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#11
Well it was amusing that none of you considered that it was a quote.

I am away from home at the moment as my mother was rushed into hospital on Monday and have been staying with her now she's back (I was supposed to be going to the Lyon Roman army conference, so now have a few days spare). I'm afraid the book is the last thing I've been worrying about, not least as my partner had her bank account drained by fraudsters two days later. And I haven't even registered the ISBN for the new Corbridge Hoard book!

Mike Bishop
You know my method. It is founded upon the observance of trifles

Blogging, tweeting, and mapping Hadrian\'s Wall... because it\'s there
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#12
I hope your mom is doing better Mike; and what horrible news for your partner. I hope there is some insurance back up from the bank at least.

Actually, over on RAT Facebook someone did mention it seemed to be a quote from the New Testament, but not the Latinists. Embarrassing.
Richard Campbell
Legio XX - Alexandria, Virginia
RAT member #6?
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#13
"Well it was amusing that none of you considered that it was a quote."

Not much chance of that here... Latin is all Greek to me :???:
Anyway I'm hoping there's some related references to footwear, could always do with more of those...

Best Wishes for your Mum ;-)
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#14
I am really looking forward to the release Ut Milites Dicuntur, it sounds like it will be an essential reference for military historians and reenactors alike.

I had thought the title might be based on several citations related to military phrases in the grammar of Sextus Pompeius Festus which use dicuntur milites, for example:

"Sub vineam iacere dicuntur milites, cum astantibus centurionibus iacere coguntur sudes."

It also brought to mind several passages I had bookmarked in Vegetius' Epitoma Rei Militaris related to military phrases, jargon, or terminology which use dicuntur or the singular dicitur, such as:

"Vocalia dicuntur quae uoce humana pronuntiantur," (III.5)

"Prima autem et secunda acies, cum ad spathas et ad pila, ut dicitur, uentum fuerit, totum sustinet bellum." (III.14)

". . . admotis liburnis iniectis pontibus in aduersariorum transeunt naues ibique gladiis manu ad manum, ut dicitur, comminus dimicant." (IV.44)
Mark Graef
Clash of Iron
clashofiron.org
Staff Member, Ludus Militis
www.ludusmilitis.org
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#15
Well, it's finally available (UK US DE), after a long dispute with CreateSpace over the title (who didn't get the whole V=U thing and insisted the title was registered with Vs in it (despite the UK ISBN people being happy with it) ... so it has. Bolshiest bunch of printers I've ever come across ... ;-)

An ebook will follow (with every reference hyperlinked).

Mike Bishop
You know my method. It is founded upon the observance of trifles

Blogging, tweeting, and mapping Hadrian\'s Wall... because it\'s there
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