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Stanegate
#1
Have any of you learned Ladies and Gentlemen ever seen anything that indicates what the Romans may have called the Stanegate? I'm referring to the actual road, not the frontier as such.

At this stage even a best guess would do for my purposes!

Thanks in advance
Adam
Adam

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#2
If you have the latin word for frontier it may well have been VIA ........... for it did function as such from coast to coast across the north of Britannia before the 255 line discovered by the late Raymond Selkirk and Hadrian's Wall.
Brian Stobbs
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#3
Stanegate, or stone road, connected Luguvallium (Carlisle) to Corstipium (Corbridge).
Meeting rivers and other roads at each end.
Davidus
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#4
Via Transversum or Via Mare come to mind.
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#5
Quote:Via Transversum or Via Mare come to mind.

Google translate tells me 'Transversum' means 'chops'. I am quietly confident that is wrong! What does it mean?
Adam

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#6
Would Via Luguvallium make sense as that is the termination point of the road?
Adam

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#7
transversum means "diagonally across", it is a Latin phrase commonly used in medicine to name body parts with such an alignment.
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#8
If transversum does mean "diagonally across" that would be correct for the 255 line frontier across northern Brittainia, as this one goes from Whitley Bay on the northeast coast to Maryport on the west coast on that particular heading.
The Stanegate frontier however goes from west coast to east coast not just from Luguvallium ( Carlisle ) to Corstopitum ( Corbridge ) it also creates a crossroads with the Proto Dere Street at Bywell 4 miles east of Corbridge then continues on towards the east coast.
I have traced it myself just beyond Heddon on the Wall where it then becomes lost in the expansion of the City of Newcastle upon Tyne, there have also been excavations of it west of Carlisle as it continues on to the west coast.
Brian Stobbs
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#9
The Stanegate also has a branch road going off it in a north east direction not too far east of Vindolanda at Fourstones and crosses the north Tyne river just south of Chesters Roman fort, it then continues on to meet the Devils causeway Roman road at Little Whittington farm just north of the Roman fort of Onnum on Hadrian's Wall where the Dere Street passes to the east of this fort and not the road going north out of Corbridge which is not the Dere Street as is incorrectly claimed.
The Devils causeway Roman road may well have a medieval name given to it from where it begins near the Devils water that is a tributary of the river Tyne just to the south of the Stanegate fort half a mile west of the Roman town of Corbridge.
Brian Stobbs
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#10
With traversly, a straight line from left to right (or vice versa) is indicated, so this would be correct for a road stretching from coast to coast. So please forgive me for using the wrong phrase (diagonally= at an angle) in indicating the direction in the translation of Traversum, it should be across.
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#11
That is alright Robert for all these three frontiers in the wall area are from coast to coast and so very close together, but different periods.
It has been said that the Stanegate may be Agricolan, where the 255 line could be Trajan after the troops were pulled back out of Scotland around 98 - 100 AD, and Hadrian copied from Trajan when he built his wall but swung it around to use the river Irthing in Cumbria for his supply logistics with river barges similar to the river Tyne in the east hence the Tigrian Baccari at Arbeia and another similar group at Boness.
Brian Stobbs
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#12
Or Via Corstipium, for that matter, as this is the termination? point of the road.
Just being a PITA!
Davidus
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#13
There's a paved road right through the middle of Corbrige (Corstopidum) which is the Stangate itself. If that's what you are referring to, it is not at the end.
Moi Watson

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#14
If you go to Spoutwell Lane on the east side of the modern Corbridge you will see the curbs of the Stanegate Road as it heads towards the 40 acre marching camp on the east end of the town, it enters this camp at the west side leaves at the east side then carries on towards Bywell 4 miles down stream from Corbridge them also leaves Bywell still heading eastwards.
In fact one might even call it the Via Pons Aelius for it is heading that way as also Hadrian's Wall.
Brian Stobbs
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#15
If it was built during Agricola's governorship, it could have been called the via Domitiana. Mind you, that would have to have changed after Domitian received the damnatio memoriae.
Michael King Macdona

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