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New \"old\" roman camps
#1
1. According to this:
http://science.orf.at/stories/1733435/
The earliest roman camp found at Bregenz/Brigantium (Ölrain) is to be dated to 5 AD according to dendrochronology.
This had been suspected as early on as 1911 and 1913, when wooden buildings with accompanying finds were spotted.
After rebuilding it thoroughly during the reign of Tioberius it had been demolished "as planned" under the reign of Claudius.
Civilian use of the Location followed suit.
2. A while ago it has already been established that the traces of Roman trenches at Ludwigshafen-Rheingönheim which
had preceeded the permanent camp established under Claudius were indeed part of a legionary base of about
24 ha size. (400x600) The traces have been known ever since the Reichslimes-Kommission did a survey, but later
surveys did not much for clearing the actual size and it had been upheld that the camp might have been (only)
11 ha large until the excavations at the site which had started in 2008.
http://www.archaeopro.de/ >> "Aktuell" >> "Bilddokumentation" "Kastell Rheingönheim--Ausgrabungen 2008/2009" >> Pics
AFAIK they have not come up with more precise dating yet.

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#2
....they're "comin' in" hard & fast now 8-) ....
Yesterday a press-note from the "Archäologischer Park Carnuntum"/"The Ludwig Boltzmann Institute" made it official that one of the oldest roman camps in Austria
has been found under the roman settlement outside the western gate of the walled roman town of Carnuntum/Deutsch Altenburg (Austria) on the Danube.
No exact data was given concerning the exact date of that installation, but since it lay "well buried" under the oldest strata of roman civilian buildings in that area,
the researchers reconed that it must bee decidedly older than these. The camp stretches up to the banks of river Danube, enclosing an area pf ca. 57,6 ha.
(....giving place to the encampment of ca. 3 legions, as you may have figuered out. :wink: )
The finds so far suggest that the "ordinary" legionaries may have been housed in tents rather than in solid barracks.
Links:
"Da Pressetext in Englisch" :
http://carnuntum.7reasons.net/TXT/PK_Car...nglish.pdf
The pics for "Da Fun & Games" Dept. or plain simply mo' betta info :
http://carnuntum.7reasons.net/
Some more interesting stuff from Austrian archeologists:
http://archpro.lbg.ac.at/austria-carnunt...-landscape

Greez

Simplex
I'm afraid Dr. Mike Bishop's website on Roman Legionary camp ( BUY his book, will ya'?! Cool )
might need to be updated now.
They say: it is "six football-fields" ---- well , I didn't know the romans DID play football. New findings ?! :whistle:
Siggi K.
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#3
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#4
I stand corrected as for the size of the Carnuntum camp.
The actual size of the camp would be 5,76 ha NOT 57,6 ha as I probably miscalculated (Square-meters into Hektar -- not ar !-- is 1 : 10000!) :whistle: :unsure: :oops: :oops:
I should have understood this earlier, because of the "6 football-fields" mentioned, -- football-fields are 120 x 90 m at largest and 6 of them arrayed 2x3 .
My apologizes for that.

Greez

Siggi

My thanks go to Simon Sulk, M.A.at the Deutsche Limeskommission, Saalburg.
Siggi K.
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