Reenacting with Disabilities?

[Aluscladiusmaximus]

Its not the brests that show but the legs are a dead giveaway as is the armour splaying out over their hips.<br>
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At least fat men won't show cellulite on their legs and re-enactment seems to attract a number of cuddly women<br>
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Aulusclaudius maximus <p></p><i></i>

[FlaviusCrispus]

<<British women are alleged to have the largest breasts in the world, on average, so you must forgive Derek for thinking they are prone to be conspicuous.>><br>
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Hmmm. Where does this statistic come from? Now I'll have to pay more attention to the females around me during my visits to the scepter'd isle. Maybe I'll bring along a tape measure next time. To perform a proper survey, I mean. For purely academic reasons, of course.<br>
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T. Flavius Crispus <p></p><i></i>

[derek forrest]

You surprise me . I do not recall ever seeing a female legionary although there may have been a bracae clad auxilliary somewhere lurking. Which Units are you thinking of? Pictures?<br>
As to breast sizes .Jenny surprises me but I agree a segmentata would hide a substantial anatomy! I also agree that the legs would be a problem if we insist on tunics.It would be difficult to persuade a 21st century women not to shave her legs but then again what about the early ist century habit of depilation?<br>
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[Anonymous]

We do seem to have gone off on a tangent here don't we?<br>
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As for groups allowing women to soldier; I beleive Comitatus allow women as do Vicus and ourselves Deva Victrix, I'm sure there are more besides.<br>
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Don't get stuck in a rut with the idea of seg clad legionaries. As I said the usual requirement is for the womaen to realistically portray their chosen role. Segmentata is not very forgiving, particularly on curvy women and our well endowed british women could actually find it very uncomfortable squeezing into a set. Don't forget most legionaries wore Hamata anyway, this can be a little more accomodating for females. Following on from this, there are numerous auxiliary roles to be portrayed.<br>
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Our standpoint is; we aren't going to rewrite history - there were no women in the Roman army, but if women are willing to act as a male, be treated as such and can realistically portray the chosen role, then they are welcome to join in.<br>
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After all this talk of curves and large bossom's I'm off to take a cold shower.<br>
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Mummius <p></p><i></i>

[Lucius Aurelius Metellus]

I agree with this wholeheartedly...and anyway, what has the nonsense about women reenactors got to do with disabilities, anyway? I don't think being a woman constitutes having a disability, and this thread isn't about a war between the sexes. If the ladies want to reenact, leave them alone and let them do it! <p>Lucius Aurelius Metellus, miles gregarius, Secunda Brittanica</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=luciusaureliusmetellus@romanarmytalk>Lucius Aurelius Metellus</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://photobucket.com/albums/v384/Lucius68/?action=view&current=EarlyImperial.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 8/14/04 12:05 am<br></i>

[Anonymous]

WOW!!!!!! a totally new form of re enactment!!!<br>
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as fellow ADHD nutter i have to agree with Tom that its might be difficult to hide....... but not while re enacting!!!<br>
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who is that Roman dashing about the field, blabbing in himself, attacking on impulse and doing silly things?? and whats worse buying, buying, and buying even more junk!!!<br>
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id rather be a cripple veteran than what i am now..... hahahaha well at least the amfetamines are free for us..... they dont work the way they should since we just become a bit more docile...........<br>
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greetzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br>
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M.VIB.M. <p></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

MARCvS,<br>
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I know exactly what ya mean.<br>
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ADHD is why I have a Norman and Roman kit in the planning stages, and why I won't rule out <em>ANY</em> period!!!!<br>
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Ritilan is my friend.<br>
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Cavetus <p></p><i></i>

[Tita Iuventia Martia]

AVETE,
This topic is very interesting for me, because I am visualy impaired - I am blind and I really like Roman army, Roman life and Roman legionaries, their training, fighting, camp life etc. I am a member of our Roman group, LEG X GPF from Czech rep. I am showing veteranvs centvrio, so I participate on parades, camp life, marchings etc. - simply, non combat activities in our group and I am really happy that I can do this activities :-) -) if woman wants to be a Roman legionary, she has to adapt her equipment, I mean general lorica, helmet (problem is size).

vale and best regards from Prague. And excuse me my English, I am begginer...

[M. Demetrius]

Your English is fine, Radka, and I'm very glad you are allowed to participate in the hobby, in spite of your visual challenge. I wish the best of all things to you, and salute your determination.

Now how did that Roman salute go? Hmm...

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

British women are alleged to have the largest breasts in the world, on average, so you must forgive Derek for thinking they are prone to be conspicuous.<br>
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Others of us not so well endowed are surely well able to bind up and hide the "disability" under segmentata.<br>
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I would say fat round beer guts are far more of a liability, visually, than a bound bosom, which really just looks like pectoral muscles, something many lads could stand to improve.<br>
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Jenny


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Actually, those 'fat round beer guts' are usually an efffect of wearing tunica and subarmalis under Hamata. Segs hide the bear guts tooo(well mine anyways :wink: )

[Tita Iuventia Martia]

M. Demetrius, thank you for your kind words.

By the way, do you want me to help with that roman salute? :wink:

Regards,
T. Iuventia Martia

[M. Demetrius]

Sure. As far as I know, the movie version of a clenched fist to the chest and a straight arm salute is not supported by history, or so many thousands of words on RAT say. They either didn't write it down, or it was so obvious that everybody then knew.

But I salute you nevertheless.
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[Marcus Iulius Chattus]

I have 2 disabilitys: A fully destroyed left hip (thanks to the germans love to soccer!) which hamper my walk, troubles my balance and hurt on long day´s when i must carry heavy weights over a considerabe time (as roman or in my job)!
6 years ago, i cut away one of my left fingers with a electrical hedgeshear! Since, i´ve got problems especially to hold my parma! One or two heavy blows on the shield and it fell out of my hand!
All members of my group knows from my disabilitys and have no problems with it (only my son say´s sometimes that i walk like an old, battered duck!).
I know from a german roman-group, in which a leg-amputee serves as soldier and you must look very close to see his "Prothese" (i don´t know the english word). He marches with the other soldiers and wears fully equipment!
I have no problems with disabled men in roman groups, but i have a lot of respect!

[jvrjenivs]

I know from a german roman-group, in which a leg-amputee serves as soldier and you must look very close to see his "Prothese" (i don´t know the english word). He marches with the other soldiers and wears fully equipment!
I have no problems with disabled men in roman groups, but i have a lot of respect!

Yeah, when something break, we used to say, bring it to Roland/LANGOBARDVS, he can repair everything! (except his own leg).


And another one question we once got (from a fellow re-enactor): Did the romans already have electricity in their tents? Yes, they had to reload their legs.

[Marcus Iulius Chattus]

Electrical Leg? I never heard from anything like that