08-21-2013, 02:50 PM
Hmm ok quickly since I'm bookless:
This is actually problematic: Usually /amphi/ isn't taken with a number and always implies both sides (of something) and you can see this in all the variations of the word. On the other hand this extended passage alone does this twice, right? so earlier you have κεφαλαὶ δέ οἱ ἦσαν...τρεῖς ἀμφιστρεφέες ἑνὸς αὐχένος ἐκπεφυυῖαι for the shield with the snake. So whether you're dealing with a bad text (various editors postulated different solutions, our solution comes from Aristarkhos), ossified usage, folk usage or confusion....I don't know. I'd say however you can visually reconcile the image should be fine. For me instantly I think of a horn on either side.
/phaleros/ Bear in mind the word is still productive for the poet because people get hit on it as well as have them, so he must have had an idea. The Greeks (I think Aeschylus?) described the Persian tiara as having one, though the words don't come to mind right now. As for the Latin its phonology shows it to be a loan word from the Greek, if I remember correctly it;s also used to describe armaments for horses so it can guide your usage.
I don't think Agamemnon's helmet is described elsewhere, even in the close up in book 2, however I remember that the helmet here is meant to strongly recall Athene's back in book 5, so check that. I'd type it out but my mental grasp of the lines isn't as secure as it used to be and I don't have access to the text right now.
As it stands I see no problem with your conception, straight away I'd think of something like that, assuming you're taking bosses to be the cheek pieces. Oh and as for the single/vs plural plume. Remember how hexameter works, you could have it either way if you liked, though I think one would look better than two.
This is actually problematic: Usually /amphi/ isn't taken with a number and always implies both sides (of something) and you can see this in all the variations of the word. On the other hand this extended passage alone does this twice, right? so earlier you have κεφαλαὶ δέ οἱ ἦσαν...τρεῖς ἀμφιστρεφέες ἑνὸς αὐχένος ἐκπεφυυῖαι for the shield with the snake. So whether you're dealing with a bad text (various editors postulated different solutions, our solution comes from Aristarkhos), ossified usage, folk usage or confusion....I don't know. I'd say however you can visually reconcile the image should be fine. For me instantly I think of a horn on either side.
/phaleros/ Bear in mind the word is still productive for the poet because people get hit on it as well as have them, so he must have had an idea. The Greeks (I think Aeschylus?) described the Persian tiara as having one, though the words don't come to mind right now. As for the Latin its phonology shows it to be a loan word from the Greek, if I remember correctly it;s also used to describe armaments for horses so it can guide your usage.
I don't think Agamemnon's helmet is described elsewhere, even in the close up in book 2, however I remember that the helmet here is meant to strongly recall Athene's back in book 5, so check that. I'd type it out but my mental grasp of the lines isn't as secure as it used to be and I don't have access to the text right now.
As it stands I see no problem with your conception, straight away I'd think of something like that, assuming you're taking bosses to be the cheek pieces. Oh and as for the single/vs plural plume. Remember how hexameter works, you could have it either way if you liked, though I think one would look better than two.
Jass
