04-23-2013, 07:09 PM
Frank wrote:
But elite in ancient times was more defined by origin and social standing.
And not just in ancient times. I wholeheartedly agree with Frank: you should not project our specific, meritocratic concept of "elite" on other cultures, aristocratic notions of origin and status were much more important.
Contemporary example of such a misunderstanding: during the invasion of Iraq, and later during the revolution in Libya, "experts" warned about the "elite forces" at the disposal of the respective dictators, and then these elite forces were never heard of again. They were elite because they were the most trustworthy, for one reason or another but usually because of tribal affiliation. Because of their high status they were better equipped, but their military performance never made it to the headlines.
But elite in ancient times was more defined by origin and social standing.
And not just in ancient times. I wholeheartedly agree with Frank: you should not project our specific, meritocratic concept of "elite" on other cultures, aristocratic notions of origin and status were much more important.
Contemporary example of such a misunderstanding: during the invasion of Iraq, and later during the revolution in Libya, "experts" warned about the "elite forces" at the disposal of the respective dictators, and then these elite forces were never heard of again. They were elite because they were the most trustworthy, for one reason or another but usually because of tribal affiliation. Because of their high status they were better equipped, but their military performance never made it to the headlines.
